Far-right activists banned from entering Britain

@izzythepush,

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They don't call them **** eating Southern Baptists for nothing.

But they are not cowards, you are.

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Eight police officers in an east German town were slightly injured on Saturday night after they were pelted with bottles at a far-right rock concert.

The concert, in the market place of Apolda, Thuringia, was halted after an hour because of the violence.

Around 700 neo-Nazis attended the concert, which had been dubbed "Rock Against the Overflow of Foreigners".

A counter-demonstration earlier in the day attracted a similar number of people.

An ecumenical church service in protest at the concert was also held on Saturday, attended by Thuringia's first minister, minister of the interior and minister of the environment.

The concert was legal, but the violence began as people began arriving for the concert. As well as bottles being thrown, police used pepper spray on at least one demonstrator who tried to jump the barrier checks.

State police later tweeted that eight officers were slightly injured but had not needed hospital treatment.

The concert had been moved to Apolda at the last minute after it was banned from being held as planned in a nearby city.

Support for the far right is on the rise in eastern Germany. The arrival of more than one million refugees and asylum seekers since 2015 has divided the country.

About 23% of voters in Thuringia support the far-right, anti-immigration Alternative for Germany (AfD) party, according to a recent opinion poll commissioned by public broadcaster MDR.

The co-leader of the AfD in Thuringia, Björn Höcke, has condemned the Holocaust memorial in Berlin and is well-known for inflammatory marks on refugees and race.

Germany society has been deeply divided over the influx of more than one million migrants, mostly Muslims fleeing Middle East conflicts, after Chancellor Angela Merkel's decision in 2015 to let them in.

Since then, policy changes have led to a sharp fall in the number of people seeking asylum.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-45776139

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@izzythepush,

The great tragedy of modern German history is that Prussia managed to defeat and annex the whole country between 1866 and 1871 – and then systematically pushed the idea that this was "unification".

Many of the citizens in the German eastern states, especially in the Thuringia and Saxony, haven't integrated.
And remember that parts of East Germany were for 800 years contested land between Germans and Slavs!

The full weight of our Rechtsstaat ("law-based state") really is the only language these people understand. I hope it.

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@Walter Hinteler,

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The great tragedy of modern German history is that Prussia managed to defeat and annex the whole country between 1866 and 1871

So Hitler was the second greatest tragedy?

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@coldjoint,

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The great tragedy of modern German history is that Prussia managed to defeat and annex the whole country between 1866 and 1871

coldjoint wrote:

So Hitler was the second greatest tragedy?

I'm not a native English speaker. So I apologise if my answer looks like it's numerical constellation or ranking in American English. (Actually, those right-wingers here you support, called the NAZI-period "a speck of bird poo in over 1,000 years of successful German history".)

However, if all that hadn't be done by Prussia, we wouldn't have got an Austrian citizen as leader of a "All-German" political party and chancellor.

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@Walter Hinteler,

Since you mentioned Hitler:
The inaugural "Jews in the AfD" group was founded in Offenbach today, ostensibly calling out anti-Semitism – and the irony cannot be ignored.

The phenomenon of right-wing populist parties acting as Jewish communities' allies is not new but can be observed across Europe.
An alliance between Jews and right-wing populists cannot work in the long term. This is because right-wing populists will only take a stand against anti-Semitism if they can use it to promote their anti-migrant agenda.

Many Jewish communities in postwar Germany were formed by Russian immigrants who stayed behind after the Soviet Union was dismantled. Today, Germans with Russian origins are some of the AfD's most loyal voters - the leaders of said group have the same origin.

More than 40 German Jewish organisations have now joined the Central Council of Jews' declaration "against the AfD" *. It states that the party was "anti-democratic, inhuman and in large parts right-wing radical". It represented "in no way the interests of the Jewish community", but was "a party in which Jewish hatred and relativisation up to the denial of the Shoah have a home".

*Gemeinsame Erklärung gegen die AfD ("Joint declaration against the AfD", pdf, in German)

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@Walter Hinteler,

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More than 40 German Jewish organisations have now joined the Central Council of Jews' declaration "against the AfD" *.

Jews can be just as self hating as others.

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@coldjoint,

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Jews can be just as self hating as others.

Those 40 organisation are all the Jewish organisations we've got here, from liberal to ultra-orthodox, from youth organisations to Holocaust survivors and their families.

However, no surprise that you call them "self hating". Your Nazi friends from the AfD here will "take care" of them:
it's that party whose deputy parliamentary group leader in the Berlin-Marzahn district council praised "the clever policies of SS chief Heinrich Himmler's head deputy Reinhard Heydrich," the organiser of the Wannsee Conference on the "Final Solution to the Jewish Question".

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@Walter Hinteler,

The Guardian: Germany's AfD sparks outcry with launch of 'Jewish group'

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The party said a group of 19 had formed “Jews in the AfD”, and that anyone joining must be a card-carrying member of the party who is either ethnically or religiously Jewish.

The move drew a backlash from Germany’s Jewish community, which called the AfD a racist and antisemitic party.About 250 people, many from Jewish organisations, held a protest in Frankfurt on Sunday against the new group.

“You won’t get a kosher stamp from us,” Dalia Grinfeld, who heads the Jewish students’ union in Germany, said at the protest.

Leading members of the AfD have been repeatedly criticised for comments that appear to play down the Holocaust, and Jewish organisations including the Central Council of Jews in Germany issued a statement condemning the the party ahead of Sunday’s march.

“The AfD is a party that provides a home for hatred for Jews as well as the relativising, or even denial of the Holocaust,” it said.
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The deputy parliamentary group leader of Angela Merkel’s CDU party, Stephan Harbarth, called the AfD’s bid to start a Jewish wing hypocrisy.

“Whoever calls the Holocaust a speck of bird poo in German history does not fight antisemitism but mocks its victims, and definitely does not stand on the side of the Jews,” he told Sunday’s edition of Bild.

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@Walter Hinteler,

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Your Nazi friends

Sorry, I have no Nazi friends, unless you and Izzy qualify.

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@coldjoint,

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Sorry, I have no Nazi friends,

Okay. I verify: those members -resp. their ideas- of the AfD you support , and who have ideas like the old Nazis from 1933.

Since you supported PEGIDA as well, I verify my response to "your neo-Nazi friends".

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@Walter Hinteler,

Even other Nazis don't like him. Can't say I'm surprised.

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@coldjoint,

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orry, I have no Nazi friends, unless you and Izzy qualify.

I expressly object to called to your friend.
And as for my position on the Nazis ... well, it's been known for decades, I can't even laugh at the **** you're accusing me of.

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@Walter Hinteler,

He's just doing what his Uncle Joe says.

https://co2islife.files.wordpress.com/2017/04/tumblr_obfxcb8s521ruckzqo1_500-e1471451827922.jpg?w=840

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@Walter Hinteler,

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I expressly object to called to your friend.

Do German panties bunch easily?

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@izzythepush,

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Even other Nazis don't like him.

Considering you qualify for other Nazis, it is probably so.

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@coldjoint,

coldjoint wrote:

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I expressly object to called to your friend.

Do German panties bunch easily?

Why do you ask? Is this another one of your disturbing fantasies? Icky-poo CJ, icky-poo

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@glitterbag,

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Why do you ask?

That is none of your business.

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@coldjoint,

coldjoint wrote:

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Why do you ask?

That is none of your business.

Seems to me that you ask questions that are far too invasive and also ‘NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS’. Maybe you are special, but maybe you are just a ‘special case’, or maybe you are behaving like a bush league provocateur.

Or a relentless gossip.

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