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Is This Legally Binding?

 
 
Reply Thu 3 Feb, 2005 01:53 pm
Ok, some of you might remember my issues with being slapped with a debt that was incorrect. Well, I sent a letter to the collection agency and to Sprint PSC (the bastards.....) saying that I was unwilling to pay the debt until they could provide itemization and proof that this debt existed. Previously they could not. I gave them 30 days to respond to me or I said "I will assume that this matter has been closed and I will not be liable for the debt in the amount of XXX, account number XXXXX." I also sent a letter to Sprint explaining that "Should this debt not be verified in its entirety, the account returned to you as un-collectible and resubmitted to another collection agency, I will continue to pursue documentation as to the validity of the total debt in regards to my account with you."

Is that legally binding? If they don't respond to me, can I assume that they have written this amount off? Or does it basically just buy me time until SPrint resubmits this to another agency? Just curious.
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fishin
 
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Reply Thu 3 Feb, 2005 02:27 pm
"Legally binding" to what? "Binding" implies a contract or agreement. What you sent them is entirely one sided and doesn't fall into that realm IMO.

What you are doing is contesting a charge or bill. It is already up to them to prove the bill is valid. If they can do that they'll probably present you with the documentation. If they can't they'll probably remove the charges.

If they drop the charges you should get some sort of statement from them saying that that has been done. Otherwise, if you don't hear from them after whatever the cut-off point is in your state you can probably assume you are clear of the debt. (Each state has it's own time limit after which debts are considered uncollectable - you'd need to check your state's laws and find out what that is.)

You may find that they might not say anything to you but they may report the unpaid debt to a credit reporting agency. You'll want to keep a copy of teh letter you sent them in case they do.
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Bella Dea
 
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Reply Thu 3 Feb, 2005 02:30 pm
fishin' wrote:
(Each state has it's own time limit after which debts are considered uncollectable - you'd need to check your state's laws and find out what that is.)


By legally binding I guess I meant, could I leagally assume that I am not liable for that debt if they don't get back with me?

I will need to check MI laws......thanks!


fishin' wrote:
You may find that they might not say anything to you but they may report the unpaid debt to a credit reporting agency. You'll want to keep a copy of teh letter you sent them in case they do.


They already have and no one can give me any information on what the debt is for. Makes me so mad....
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Bella Dea
 
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Reply Thu 3 Feb, 2005 02:32 pm
What does this mean??


Michigan Statutes of Limitation

Breach of Contract: 6 years, (MCL 600.5807(8).

Breach of Contract for Sale of goods under the UCC: 4 years: including deficiency actions following repossession and sale of goods subject to a security interest, (MCL 440.2725(1).

Judgments: 10 years, but are renewable by action for another 10 years, MCL.600.5809(3).

NOTE: Another state's limitation period may apply check statutes carefully.
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fishin
 
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Reply Thu 3 Feb, 2005 02:40 pm
I would guess that the 2nd of those applies (i.e. 4 years) to your situation. They can go to court and seek a judgement against you at any time during that 4 year period (and of course, you can go and defend yourself). If they won they'd then have 10 years (the 3rd line) to collect that debt.
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Debra Law
 
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Reply Thu 3 Feb, 2005 03:47 pm
I believe the original post concerns collection on an unpaid account in the former state of residence? Here is a website that charts, state by state, the statute of limitations for filing a lawsuit to collect on an unpaid account:

http://www.bcsalliance.com/y_debt_sol.html

The applicable law concerning collecting activities is the FEDERAL Fair Debt Collection Practices Act.

http://www.ftc.gov/os/statutes/fdcpa/fdcpact.htm

The Poster asked for Validation of the Debt. See, e.g.:

ยง 809. Validation of debts [15 USC 1692g]

(a) Within five days after the initial communication with a consumer in connection with the collection of any debt, a debt collector shall, unless the following information is contained in the initial communication or the consumer has paid the debt, send the consumer a written notice containing --

(1) the amount of the debt;

(2) the name of the creditor to whom the debt is owed;

(3) a statement that unless the consumer, within thirty days after receipt of the notice, disputes the validity of the debt, or any portion thereof, the debt will be assumed to be valid by the debt collector;

(4) a statement that if the consumer notifies the debt collector in writing within the thirty-day period that the debt, or any portion thereof, is disputed, the debt collector will obtain verification of the debt or a copy of a judgment against the consumer and a copy of such verification or judgment will be mailed to the consumer by the debt collector; and

(5) a statement that, upon the consumer's written request within the thirty-day period, the debt collector will provide the consumer with the name and address of the original creditor, if different from the current creditor.

(b) If the consumer notifies the debt collector in writing within the thirty-day period described in subsection (a) that the debt, or any portion thereof, is disputed, or that the consumer requests the name and address of the original creditor, the debt collector shall cease collection of the debt, or any disputed portion thereof, until the debt collector obtains verification of the debt or any copy of a judgment, or the name and address of the original creditor, and a copy of such verification or judgment, or name and address of the original creditor, is mailed to the consumer by the debt collector.

(c) The failure of a consumer to dispute the validity of a debt under this section may not be construed by any court as an admission of liability by the consumer.
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Fri 4 Feb, 2005 05:11 pm
Bella Dea wrote:
By legally binding I guess I meant, could I leagally assume that I am not liable for that debt if they don't get back with me?


The answer to your question, is "no," if you were still unsure. As fishin' said, the ultimatum in your letter is unilateral, and their non-response in no way binds them from pursuing collection.

But of course, if they had any "evidence" of the debt, they would probably just send it to you, which they have not been able to do despite your requests.

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They already have and no one can give me any information on what the debt is for. Makes me so mad....


If they have reported this "debt" to a credit reporting agency (not a collection agency), I would dispute it with the credit reporting agencies (TransUnion, Equifax) directly, and you should provide them with a copy of the letter you sent to Sprint.
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Fri 4 Feb, 2005 05:15 pm
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Bella Dea
 
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Reply Mon 7 Feb, 2005 09:12 am
Ticomaya wrote:
Bella Dea wrote:
By legally binding I guess I meant, could I leagally assume that I am not liable for that debt if they don't get back with me?


The answer to your question, is "no," if you were still unsure. As fishin' said, the ultimatum in your letter is unilateral, and their non-response in no way binds them from pursuing collection.

But of course, if they had any "evidence" of the debt, they would probably just send it to you, which they have not been able to do despite your requests.

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They already have and no one can give me any information on what the debt is for. Makes me so mad....


If they have reported this "debt" to a credit reporting agency (not a collection agency), I would dispute it with the credit reporting agencies (TransUnion, Equifax) directly, and you should provide them with a copy of the letter you sent to Sprint.


I am going to. I just know that this is going to be an uphill battle and I don't want to deal with it.
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