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Global Warming...New Report...and it ain't happy news

 
 
oralloy
 
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Reply Wed 21 Oct, 2020 11:08 pm
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:
so you are asserting that climate data is doctored?? Or are you saying that data that does not comport with, say, an emerging trend surface, is ignored???

Wow, So, is there an entire secret scientific underground that is busy removing data from the stream of randomly located and collected data?

Sorry about the delayed reply. I thought I had answered this.

Yes, yes, and yes.


farmerman wrote:
How do you suspect that O16/O18 isotope data from ice cores are "DISCARDED AND IGNORED"??.

Same as with any of the data. If it is inconvenient to the leftist narrative, it won't be published.


farmerman wrote:
Can you actually tell from looking at a core where the high temp data v low temp data will occur??

I'm sure I couldn't do it personally.

I've no idea what an expert is capable of achieving.
oralloy
 
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Reply Wed 21 Oct, 2020 11:11 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:
How would you get facts (here: observed "Maximum, Minimum, Record‐Length Mean, Temporal Standard Deviation, and Integral Time Scale") without the data?

I'd get the data. So I wouldn't be without the data.

Data and facts are really the same thing by the way.


Walter Hinteler wrote:
Measure with your finger? Put your big toe in the water? And afterwards guess?

I expect that there are scientific instruments that can take measurements.
oralloy
 
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Reply Wed 21 Oct, 2020 11:19 pm
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
Uh, branco. whose is the economy thats tanked., who's president?

Branco is depicting the economy under a hypothetical Biden Administration in that cartoon.


MontereyJack wrote:
Who's driving the lead van off the road? DJT.

No. Branco is depicting global warming scientists as driving the lead van off the road.
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Thu 22 Oct, 2020 03:25 am
@oralloy,
finally you admit you've been pushing a baseless conspiracy theory here. climate change is real. the data are real. your hypothesis is bogus.
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Thu 22 Oct, 2020 03:27 am
@oralloy,
there are scientific instruments that can measure the data. they have, millions of times. you lose.
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Thu 22 Oct, 2020 03:30 am
@oralloy,
branco says nothing about climate change in that cartoon. He just makes a totally fallacious projection directly contradicted by biden's work om the economy before the run fpr prez,prez. again, you lose.
farmerman
 
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Reply Thu 22 Oct, 2020 05:26 am
@MontereyJack,
since he readily admits that he is unable to locate that data where o16/o18 unfavorable data actually exists (AND FUNNT THING, noone else is able to either).

The tons of isotope ratio data that exists must exist because its just a product of random sampling rather than the nefarious work of the priesthood of progressive scientists.

He doesnt know how the data is kept from being reported or is beingdoctored, so, since apparently just makes stuff up as he mosies along, perhaps hes just fulla ****. My bets gonna go with him being fecally impacted in the head.

The conservatives are living examples of, "collect only the data that supports your worldview''.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 22 Oct, 2020 05:37 am

Alarm as Arctic sea ice not yet freezing at latest date on record
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Delayed freeze in Laptev Sea could have knock-on effects across polar region, scientists say

Delayed freeze in Laptev Sea could have knock-on effects across polar region, scientists say. ... ... ...

[Graphics at source]

“This continues a streak of very low extents. The last 14 years, 2007 to 2020, are the lowest 14 years in the satellite record starting in 1979,” said Walt Meier, senior research scientist at the US National Snow and Ice Data Center. He said much of the old ice in the Arctic is now disappearing, leaving thinner seasonal ice. Overall the average thickness is half what it was in the 1980s.
{...]
Dr Stefan Hendricks, a sea ice physics specialist at the Alfred Wegener Institute, said the sea ice trends are grim but not surprising. “It is more frustrating than shocking. This has been forecast for a long time, but there has been little substantial response by decision-makers.”
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oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 22 Oct, 2020 03:15 pm
Mandatory wildfire evacuations in Estes Park Colorado.

https://inciweb.nwcg.gov/incident/article/58366

Looks like there's been some leftist forest mismanagement going on there.
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Thu 22 Oct, 2020 07:16 pm
@oralloy,
You're welcome to get out there with your rake and lawn waste trash bag if you really think that's the problem. It is, however, a prolonged drought afflicting the four SWern states as well as an extreme heat wave, i.e. climate change, that is turning the area into a tinderbox, which you and our fat-ass prez are ignoring, that sets us up for these infernos. Climate change, bucko, and that's the uncherrypicked truh.
From the CPR News
Quote:
Drought Conditions Continue To Grip All Of Colorado

By Alison Borden
October 8, 2020
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The drought that took hold in Colorado this summer is getting worse.

The entire state is experiencing abnormally dry conditions and nearly 17 percent is in the most extreme category — exceptional drought, according to the U.S. Drought Monitor.

The Western Slope is the hardest hit, but Kiowa County on the Eastern Plains is also seeing the exceptional drought that can whip up dust storms and cripple agriculture.

Brian Fuchs, a climatologist with the Drought Monitor, said the conditions in Colorado are alarming.


U.S. Drought Monitor
The Oct. 8 Drought Monitor map for Colorado.
“When you look at Colorado, New Mexico, Utah, and Arizona — that's definitely where we're seeing the worst drought in the country right now,” Fuchs said.

He said the lack of precipitation and unrelenting heat is a bad combination, especially for the hundreds of firefighters still working in Colorado.

“That's exactly why we're still seeing a high fire danger and still seeing active fires in places. And, and typically this time of year we're cooling off and starting to get wetter. And that just hasn't happened yet,” Fuchs said.

There are still several fires burning in the state, the largest of which is in Larimer County. The Cameron Peak fire has scorched more than 128,000 acres and is 42 percent contained. On Wednesday, a fire ignited just south of Kremmling and quickly burned more than 80 acres in a few hours, prompting evacuations.

Colorado Wildfires Are Climate Change ‘In The Here And Now’ — And A Sign Of Summers To Come
A year ago, none of the state was experiencing the extreme categories of drought. Parts were considered dry, but a full quarter of the state had no signs of drought at all.

Colorado could return to those less alarming conditions, as long as the winter delivers some precipitation, said Tom Renwick, a meteorologist with the National Weather Service in Grand Junction.

“If we get a decent winter, and it doesn't have to be, ‘Oh my God, the most amazing winter ever,’ but a decent winter with a decent amount of snowfall, we'll get rid of the drought,” he said. “It looks really bad, but you know, I wouldn't freak out just yet.”



oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 22 Oct, 2020 08:08 pm
@MontereyJack,
Spare me the bad science. I'm not interested.

If these leftists do not want to maintain their forests properly they can deal with the consequences themselves.
glitterbag
 
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Reply Thu 22 Oct, 2020 09:07 pm
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:

Mandatory wildfire evacuations in Estes Park Colorado.

https://inciweb.nwcg.gov/incident/article/58366

Looks like there's been some leftist forest mismanagement going on there.


Oh geez, did they forget to rake the forests? By the way, Estes Park is a National Park...that means it is managed by Donald Trump. You remember Donald right?
oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 22 Oct, 2020 09:28 pm
@glitterbag,
glitterbag wrote:
By the way, Estes Park is a National Park...that means it is managed by Donald Trump. You remember Donald right?

LOL! You're almost as ignorant as Farmerman.

Almost.
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Thu 22 Oct, 2020 09:34 pm
@oralloy,
tell thagt to the rain that doesn't come and the snow that doesn't fall and the gale force winds that blow hard. It's not bad science, it's science, and it's reality.
oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 22 Oct, 2020 09:35 pm
@MontereyJack,
It's leftists not managing their forests properly.

And then, like leftists always do, they blame everyone but themselves for the disasters that they cause.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 22 Oct, 2020 09:43 pm
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
there are scientific instruments that can measure the data. they have, millions of times. you lose.

That is incorrect. I've not lost anything.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 22 Oct, 2020 09:44 pm
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
branco says nothing about climate change in that cartoon. He just makes a totally fallacious projection directly contradicted by biden's work om the economy before the run fpr prez,prez.

That is incorrect. The cartoon is about Mr. Biden's plans to follow the advice of global warming nutcases.


MontereyJack wrote:
again, you lose.

Again, I've not lost anything.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 22 Oct, 2020 09:45 pm
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:
He doesnt know how the data is kept from being reported or is being doctored,

Yes I do.


farmerman wrote:
so, since apparently just makes stuff up as he mosies along, perhaps hes just fulla ****. My bets gonna go with him being fecally impacted in the head.

Your inability to point out any untrue statements in my posts speaks for itself.


farmerman wrote:
The conservatives are living examples of, "collect only the data that supports your worldview''.

Wrong. It's the global warming scientists who are living examples of that.
oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 22 Oct, 2020 09:46 pm
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
finally you admit you've been pushing a baseless conspiracy theory here.

I admit no such thing.


MontereyJack wrote:
climate change is real.

Spare me the leftist dogma.


MontereyJack wrote:
the data are real.

The cheating says otherwise.


MontereyJack wrote:
your hypothesis is bogus.

I've not presented any hypothesis.
farmerman
 
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Reply Thu 22 Oct, 2020 10:05 pm
@oralloy,
when you understand the workings of isotope ratios and climate physics we can talk, till then, go play your war games in the basement.
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