I posted twelve Items so that Mr. Kuvasz could peruse them and answer them.
No one has seen fit to attempt to rebut them. I will hold that the twelve Items I posted, when read by anyone who knows how to think, will show that there are so many problems involved in the global warming area, that there can be no definitive answers at this time.
Mr. Timberlandko was the only one who delved into "climate science" and Foxfyre touched on it.
I will not replicate my posts but will rather list the main point covered by each one of my items- 1-12. If those posts cannot be rebutted, I must, of course, indicate that I have not been rebutted and, therefore, my posts stand.
l. Problem with usage of temperature proxy data
2. Problem set up by the 1910-1945 temperature increase
3. Problem set up by the inability to predict the global temperature over the coming years because of the incredible complexity of the Earth's climate and the factors which go into it.
4. Faithful modeling of all the important factors in the climate system is something that current computer models cannot handle.
5. The effect of water vapor feedback is poorly understood and may, according to some theorists, lead to much less warming than predicted.
6. Problem set up by the fact that the observed troposcopic warming shows no real trend.
7. Models utlized by the IPCC appear to overestimate "warming". The IPCC has laid out 40 scenarios and appear to be touting the most pessimistic ones. It must be repeated that these are all COMPUTER MODELS.
8.Other contributors to the possible warming may be, for one, solar activity. If that is correct, at least part of the global warming is completely uncontrollable
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People who have read about "Global warming" are aware that the Kyoto Protocol was presented to the US Senate in 1997. The US Senate turned it down 95-0 mainly because the protocol did not include China and India since they were listed as "Developing Countries".
Mr. Walter Hinteler gives an interesting poll which shows how people FEEL about Global Warming.
I have information which, I am certain, is far more important than how people feel about Global Warming. It tells us what people DO about Global Warming--especially the signatories to the Kyoto Protocol-
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/06/28/AR20050628011248
note- If this link does not get you to the information below, search--
Robert Samuelson Greenhouse Hypocrisy
Robert Samuelson tells us that Europe is the citadel of hypocrisy.
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"Considering Europeans' contempt for the United States and George W. Bush for not embracing the Kyoto protocol, you'd expect that they would have made major reductions in greenhouse gas emissions--the purpose of Kyoto. Well, not exactly. From 1990(Kyoto's base year for measuring changes) to 2002,global emissions of CO2, the main greenhouse gas, increased 16.4 percent, reports the International Energy Agency. The US increase was 16.7 percent, and most of Europe hasn't done better.
Here are some IEA estimates of the increases:
France 6.9 percent, Italy 8.3 percent, Greece 28.2 percent, Ireland 40.3 percent, the Netherlands 13.2 per cent, Portugal 59 percent, spain 46.9 percent, It is true that Germany ( down 13.3 percent) has made big reductions. But those cuts were not due to Kyoto. Since 1990 Germany closed many inefficient coal-fired plants in Eastern Germany, that was a huge one time saving....On their present courses, many Euopean countries will miss their Kyoto targets for 2008-2012. To reduce emissions significantly, Europeans would have to suppress driving and electricity use; that would depress economic growth and fan popular discontent. It won't happen. Political leaders everywhere deplore global warming--and then do little...since 1990 Canada's emissions are up 23.6 percent, Japan's 18.9 percent"
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I note that Germany is achieving their goal of reduction of CO2 emissions. They are to be congratulated. Any country which is willing to carry the enormous load of a 11% Unemployment Rate because of their devotion to clean skies should be complimented.
