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after watching JFK--- Shocked, Suspicious, Confused

 
 
J-B
 
Reply Sun 23 Jan, 2005 12:31 am
Hi again i am back from my exam.

I have just watched the movie JFK. It is cliff-hanging i admit and Oliver Stone make me can't be affected only little.

But suspicion also springs up.
First, the DA Garrisan showed a footage of the assassination of JFK. It indicated that there was not only one sniper but several, not only 3 bullets fired but 7. Garrison's "magic bullet" theory is flawless, but I suspect that if footage really exist. If it does, it must have been a firm evidence that the official version of the event is not true.

Next, who is Mr.Garrison? I am sorry to raise this question but I am not familiar with him. Is he still alive now? What is he doing now? Why i haven't heard from him before? (Anyway this character is a hero)

Only two at present. You know I haven't got much information particularly the latest information about the assassination as you have. So I need your discussion Smile (Although i know that you, especially you americans have discussed over this issue for thousands of times :wink: )
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Don1
 
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Reply Sun 23 Jan, 2005 04:16 am
Here is a starting point JB

The most important thing to remember about the Kennedy assassination is that there has been more disinformation put out in this case than any other event in world history.

The only thing that has been proved beyond all doubt is that Lee Harvey Oswald was NOT a lone nut gunman, Kennedy was killed in a conspiracy at the highest level.

This is about Jim Garrison.

http://www.wf.net/~biles/jfk/

This is a handy forum to ask questions of people who have studied the case for years.

http://www.jfklancerforum.com/dc/dcboard.php

Happy hunting.
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Don1
 
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Reply Sun 23 Jan, 2005 04:32 am
Here are a few more links JB, the bottom one of these is a frame by frame of the Abraham Zapruder film, the kill shot is at frame 313.


http://jfk-info.com/index2.html
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/photogal.htm
http://ourworld.cs.com/mikegriffith1/id35.htm
http://www.jfklancerforum.com/dc/dcboard.php
http://john-f-kennedy.net/
http://ourworld.cs.com/mikegriffith1/id55.htm
http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKindex.htm
http://www.prouty.org/
http://www.assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/
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dlowan
 
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Reply Sun 23 Jan, 2005 04:38 am
Stone's film is long on atmosphere - and short on facts.

Beware.
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snood
 
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Reply Sun 23 Jan, 2005 04:40 am
dlowan hath spoke.
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dlowan
 
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Reply Sun 23 Jan, 2005 04:46 am
Well, we don't want him sucked into the world of the X files, do we???
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J-B
 
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Reply Sun 23 Jan, 2005 04:53 am
Don1:
Your offer is invaluable.

I have a question: are you one of the enthusiasts of this case? Smile

I am examing the Abraham Zapruder film. So the library depository is located on the left of the man who holds the camera right?
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snood
 
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Reply Sun 23 Jan, 2005 04:54 am
Certainly not - nor would I wish that anyone accept - say, the Warren Commission Report, as gospel.
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J-B
 
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Reply Sun 23 Jan, 2005 04:57 am
dlowan wrote:
Stone's film is long on atmosphere - and short on facts.

Beware.


Feels like that dlowan, thanks for the advise Smile
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J-B
 
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Reply Sun 23 Jan, 2005 05:11 am
OTHER QUESTIONS


1. Where did Stone get the sources? Have Garrison ever composed any books about that all have he been interviem by Stone?

2. How much did the next president after JFK------Johnsan probably get involved?
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J-B
 
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Reply Sun 23 Jan, 2005 05:17 am
so the hunting is on? Confused
http://www.assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z228.jpg
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Don1
 
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Reply Sun 23 Jan, 2005 06:07 am
^JB^ wrote:
Don1:
Your offer is invaluable.

I have a question: are you one of the enthusiasts of this case? Smile



I am examing the Abraham Zapruder film. So the library depository is located on the left of the man who holds the camera right?
Yes to both questions JB
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Don1
 
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Reply Sun 23 Jan, 2005 06:52 am
^JB^ wrote:
OTHER QUESTIONS


1. Where did Stone get the sources? Have Garrison ever composed any books about that all have he been interviem by Stone?

2. How much did the next president after JFK------Johnsan probably get involved?


Lyndon Baines Johnson was up to his neck in all kinds of criminal activity and was facing probable jail time, kennedy's death saved saved him from that.


I cant transfer my 35 years ofhaving read several hundred books on this subject, having watched hundreds of hours of documentary evidence, and hundreds of hours scouring the internet into a brief summary, it simply cant be done.

The only way to become familiar with this case JB is to say to yourself

"do I want to spend the next twenty years of my life researching this"?

because believe me thats how long it will take.

Best advice I can give you JB is dont waste your time on journalistic prostitutes like Gerald Posner whose book "Case Closed" is a classic case of a man who will say anything to make money.

Oliver stones film isn't by any means flawless, but watch again the part played by Donald Sutherland, that man in real life was Richard Helms of the CIA, watch it time and time again and study it because within that dialogue is probably the reason that Kennedy was killed.

The industrial military complex is run by the most powerful people in America, look at them closely.

22nd November 1963 was the most blatant coup d'état in world history

Happy hunting






Very Happy
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Merry Andrew
 
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Reply Sun 23 Jan, 2005 07:06 am
I started a thread on the JFK assasination more than a year ago on A2K. Let me see if I can find a link. There were some very knowledgable responses there.
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Merry Andrew
 
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Reply Sun 23 Jan, 2005 07:12 am
http://www.able2know.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1317&highlight=
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J-B
 
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Reply Mon 24 Jan, 2005 04:51 am
Don1 wrote:


Oliver stones film isn't by any means flawless, but watch again the part played by Donald Sutherland, that man in real life was Richard Helms of the CIA, watch it time and time again and study it because within that dialogue is probably the reason that Kennedy was killed.



You mean that secret agent who met Garrison in Washington?
Yes I believe that was the real reason why JFK got killed.
Drop the discussion of the possibility of the CIA-FBI-Pentagon-exiles conspiracy, just switch it to the "impossibility"----just what, what made the ultra-right wing not hate Kennedy? And further what made them not kill them? since JFK's formidable popularity they seemed cant touch him politically, that might be the verge of politics, and even Julius Caesar got elimilated of that.

my little view Smile :wink: Yet i haven't read a single book but watched a film yet Smile

By the way, besides JFK, the epic-trash Alexander the Great could you name me other Oliver Stone's movies?
thanks Smile
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Mon 24 Jan, 2005 09:34 am
Stone has said he never intended that the movie be taken as an official version. He was asking questions about the event and giving life to his own personal suspicions. It is a well put together conspiracy theory movie.
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mac11
 
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Reply Mon 24 Jan, 2005 09:52 am
^JB^ wrote:
1. Where did Stone get the sources? Have Garrison ever composed any books about that all have he been interviem by Stone?


Garrison wrote a book called On the Trail of the Assassins which was a starting point for the movie.




Here's a link to info about Oliver Stone:
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Bella Dea
 
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Reply Mon 24 Jan, 2005 09:54 am
There are lots of facts in the movie but they aren't necessarily in order. They've also been cut and pasted to make sure the viewer draws certain conclusions. Oliver took artistic liberties with the whole thing.

Overall, great movie but not good if you want to study the JFK assassination. You're better of reading books and watching documentaries.
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Mon 24 Jan, 2005 10:21 am
It's like the films over the years on the identity of Jack the Ripper, the last being from a comic book, "From Hell." "JFK" is Stone's best movie, at least the most entertaining while one is lead through the labyrinth of, as Kristie puts it, the cutting-and-pasting of facts. But then the Warren Commission is a cut-and-paste of facts that want to leave one to endorse their conclusions. I don't give that any more credance than Stone's storyline. Some of it is likely the truth but until more material is declassified, it's almost impossible to put together the whole truth. It may never be done.
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