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msolga wrote:

lezzles wrote:
I guess she was a generation too early.

Possibly. But maybe Jim could have been as principled in his personal life as in his political existence?
Rather disappointing, hey?

C'mon, Olga - he's a bloody politician, f'gudness sake! (I live next door to an excellent example of a Labor politician! Evil or Very Mad

)

Morals, principles, crap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Why don't you say what you really think, Margo - don't sugar-coat it! Laughing

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margo wrote:

msolga wrote:
lezzles wrote:
I guess she was a generation too early.

Possibly. But maybe Jim could have been as principled in his personal life as in his political existence?
Rather disappointing, hey?

C'mon, Olga - he's a bloody politician, f'gudness sake! (I live next door to an excellent example of a Labor politician! )

Morals, principles, crap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Politicians have gotten far more cynical since the heady days of Gough, Jim & Juni, margo! I honestly believe Jim Cairns was sincere about his opposition to our involvement in Vietnam. A moral/political stance. It was his private/romantic life that I found/still find wanting. What a scramble brain! Rolling Eyes

These days I find it impossible to believe almost anything that any of them say. (With the possible exception of Bob Brown! That's as close to "genuine" as I can see these days.)

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Msolga - don't ever lose sight of the Khemlani "loans affair"!

Below is an extract from Wikipedia article on the above:

The Loan
During 1975, the Whitlam Government attempted to raise a loan of approximately $USD4 billion. The money was supposed to be used to fund a number of natural resource and energy projects, including construction of a natural gas pipeline, the electrification of interstate railways and a uranium enrichment plant. This was alleged to be illegal on the grounds that it bypassed the requirement of authorisation by the Loans Council which was then in force.

The Minister for Minerals and Energy, Rex Connor, Treasurer Dr. Jim Cairns, and others, were prime identities in the scandal.

The loan was sought from the Middle East and not European or American sources because the Middle East at the time was awash with "petrol-dollars", as the price of oil quadrupled between 1973 and 1974. A Pakistani broker, Tirath Khemlani, was used by Connor to secure the loan. In the end, however, no loan was ever obtained, and the scandal did much to tarnish the Whitlam Government's reputation.

Progression after its leak
A special one-day sitting of the Australian House of Representatives was held on 9 July 1975, during which the then Prime Minister of Australia, Gough Whitlam tabled the documents containing evidence about the loan and sought to defend his government's position.

Beset by economic difficulties at the time and the negative political impact which the Loans Affair conjured, the Whitlam Government was very vulnerable to further assaults on its credibility. Gough Whitlam was prompted to sack Dr. Cairns from his cabinet.

Aftermath
Although Rex Connor's authority to seek an overseas loan was withdrawn following leaking of the scandal, he continued to liaise with Khemlani. The "Herald" Newspaper based in Melbourne published documents confirming this and Connor was forced to resign from the cabinet. He was replaced by the future Prime Minister, Paul Keating.

The loans affair embarrassed the Whitlam government and exposed it to claims of impropriety. The Malcolm Fraser-led Opposition used its numbers in the Senate to block the government's budget legislation in an attempt to force an early general election, citing the loans affair as an example of ?'extraordinary and reprehensible' circumstances. Whitlam refused, and this led to the Australian constitutional crisis of 1975.

Rolling Eyes

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Oh, believe me, lezzles, I've never forgotten it!

But it all seems almost quaint compared to the massive government lies & betrayals of recent years.

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Couldn't find a link on it yet, but aren't you thrilled to know your personal wealth (if you are average) has just risen by $11,000 to $375,000?

Some lucky bugger out there has just shot up to $750,000.

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Hunter Valley rural farmers have been awarded a package to assist in preventing suicide among drought-stricken farmers but the same Hunter Valley rural farmers have been refused the drought relief package on the grounds that they do not qualify. Shocked

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lezzles wrote:

Couldn't find a link on it yet, but aren't you thrilled to know your personal wealth (if you are average) has just risen by $11,000 to $375,000?

Some lucky bugger out there has just shot up to $750,000.

That is enormously gratifying, lezzles. (How come?)
It's a shame I'm not average, though. Missed out again! :wink:

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lezzles wrote:

Hunter Valley rural farmers have been awarded a package to assist in preventing suicide among drought-stricken farmers but the same Hunter Valley rural farmers have been refused the drought relief package on the grounds that they do not qualify.

Stop it, I'm going crazy trying to figure that one out, lezzles! Confused

Two different government departments, I presume?

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msolga wrote:

lezzles wrote:
Couldn't find a link on it yet, but aren't you thrilled to know your personal wealth (if you are average) has just risen by $11,000 to $375,000?

Some lucky bugger out there has just shot up to $750,000.

That is enormously gratifying, lezzles. (How come?)
It's a shame I'm not average, though. Missed out again! :wink:

The 'lucky bugger' I referred to was whoever got my $375,000 ('cause I certainly don't have it!)

What it really means of course is that the Jamies and the Ruperts and the Iggies and Ziggies and all the other A-list CEO's are raking it in by the bucket-load while we eke out an existence from one pay day to another.

How come the news broadcasts show cattle and sheep sales where the animals are going for a dollar or so each, yet even the "cheap" supermarkets are charging $22-$26 a kilo for lamb chops (I say 'lamb' advisedly - it's been a few years since they were lambs) - who is getting the money????

Now that petrol prices have come "down" - how come I'm still paying 12-15 cents a litre more than people in the city?

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some large ag companies are purchasing cows here for $100 and trucking them to "The Territory" where they have had good rains. When conditions improve they will truck them back and sell them to restocking farmers for $800-$1000/head.

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That is what the government should be doing. Except of course for the buy-back price.

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lezzles wrote:

The 'lucky bugger' I referred to was whoever got my $375,000 ('cause I certainly don't have it!)

What it really means of course is that the Jamies and the Ruperts and the Iggies and Ziggies and all the other A-list CEO's are raking it in by the bucket-load while we eke out an existence from one pay day to another

Yep.

That's the way it works, alright.

As BD said a long time ago, "money doesn't talk, it screams" ...

But are they truly happy, I ask? Is all this ill-gained loot giving their life some sort of superior meaning?

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I remember seeing Billy Connolly on stage. He was saying how rich he had become. He paused, looking wistfully into the distance.

"You know they say money can't buy you happiness".

Then he turned to the audience with that demonic expression he sometimes wears and said - "Well, they're telling lies!"

I think I could manage to make my life very meaningful if I had a bit stashed away.... Cool

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Yes, definitely. Me, too.
Just being a little more financially comfortable would make a huge different to my life.

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msolga wrote:

Down Under Witch wrote:
msolga wrote:
lezzles wrote:
I guess she was a generation too early.

Possibly. But maybe Jim could have been as principled in his personal life as in his political existence?
Rather disappointing, hey?

C'mon, Olga - he's a bloody politician, f'gudness sake! (I live next door to an excellent example of a Labor politician! )

Morals, principles, crap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Politicians have gotten far more cynical since the heady days of Gough, Jim & Juni, Down Under Witch! I honestly believe Jim Cairns was sincere about his opposition to our involvement in Vietnam. A moral/political stance. It was his private/romantic life that I found/still find wanting. What a scramble brain! These days I find it impossible to believe almost anything that any of them say. (With the possible exception of Bob Brown! That's as close to "genuine" as I can see these days.)

Sheeesh! I've become Down Under Witch!

Yee-hah!
I never get to see these little Craven games! Halloween! Not celebrated here, but.....

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margo wrote:

Sheeesh! I've become Down Under Witch!

Yee-hah!
I never get to see these little Craven games! Halloween! Not celebrated here, but.....

Sadly it increasingly is celebrated here. How far away before we have high school proms and homecoming queens? Shee-it.

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margo wrote:

msolga wrote:
Down Under Witch wrote:
msolga wrote:
lezzles wrote:
I guess she was a generation too early.

Possibly. But maybe Jim could have been as principled in his personal life as in his political existence?
Rather disappointing, hey?

C'mon, Olga - he's a bloody politician, f'gudness sake! (I live next door to an excellent example of a Labor politician! )

Morals, principles, crap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Politicians have gotten far more cynical since the heady days of Gough, Jim & Juni, Down Under Witch! I honestly believe Jim Cairns was sincere about his opposition to our involvement in Vietnam. A moral/political stance. It was his private/romantic life that I found/still find wanting. What a scramble brain! These days I find it impossible to believe almost anything that any of them say. (With the possible exception of Bob Brown! That's as close to "genuine" as I can see these days.)

Sheeesh! I've become Down Under Witch!

Yee-hah!
I never get to see these little Craven games! Halloween! Not celebrated here, but.....

I wanna see if you still come up in the quote as down under witch!

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margo wrote:

msolga wrote:
Down Under Witch wrote:
msolga wrote:
lezzles wrote:
I guess she was a generation too early.

Possibly. But maybe Jim could have been as principled in his personal life as in his political existence?
Rather disappointing, hey?

C'mon, Olga - he's a bloody politician, f'gudness sake! (I live next door to an excellent example of a Labor politician! )

Morals, principles, crap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Politicians have gotten far more cynical since the heady days of Gough, Jim & Juni, Down Under Witch! I honestly believe Jim Cairns was sincere about his opposition to our involvement in Vietnam. A moral/political stance. It was his private/romantic life that I found/still find wanting. What a scramble brain! These days I find it impossible to believe almost anything that any of them say. (With the possible exception of Bob Brown! That's as close to "genuine" as I can see these days.)

Sheeesh! I've become Down Under Witch!

Yee-hah!
I never get to see these little Craven games! Halloween! Not celebrated here, but.....

I wanna see if you still come up in the quote as down under witch!

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margo wrote:

msolga wrote:
Down Under Witch wrote:
msolga wrote:
lezzles wrote:
I guess she was a generation too early.

Possibly. But maybe Jim could have been as principled in his personal life as in his political existence?
Rather disappointing, hey?

C'mon, Olga - he's a bloody politician, f'gudness sake! (I live next door to an excellent example of a Labor politician! )

Morals, principles, crap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Politicians have gotten far more cynical since the heady days of Gough, Jim & Juni, Down Under Witch! I honestly believe Jim Cairns was sincere about his opposition to our involvement in Vietnam. A moral/political stance. It was his private/romantic life that I found/still find wanting. What a scramble brain! These days I find it impossible to believe almost anything that any of them say. (With the possible exception of Bob Brown! That's as close to "genuine" as I can see these days.)

Sheeesh! I've become Down Under Witch!

Yee-hah!
I never get to see these little Craven games! Halloween! Not celebrated here, but.....

I wanna see if you still come up in the quote as down under witch!

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