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Do you believe in God?

 
 
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Thu 20 Jan, 2005 01:16 pm
georgeob1 wrote:
I do believe in God. I can't prove His existence beyond doubt, but I strongly believe that the leap of faith to athiesm is much greater than the one to God, based on all that I know and can observe.


Guessing in either direction...based on the evidence we have to work with...is absurd.

There is no compelling evidence upon which to base a reasonable guess that a God exists.

There is no compelling evidence upon which to base a reasonable guess that there are no gods.

The best...most truthful...most ethical consideration of the question "Is there a God?"....is...

...I do not know and I do not have enough evidence upon which to base a reasonable guess.
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georgeob1
 
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Reply Thu 20 Jan, 2005 01:31 pm
That is your choice but it is no more truthful or certainly no more ethical than any of the others. Evidently you derive a certain emotional satisfaction from it, but I don't see that its origins have much to do with either truth or ethics.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Thu 20 Jan, 2005 01:33 pm
georgeob1 wrote:
That is your choice but it is no more truthful or certainly no more ethical than any of the others. Evidently you derive a certain emotional satisfaction from it, but I don't see that its origins have much to do with either truth or ethics.


No...I see that you don't, George.

Too bad.

It is very, very obvious.
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fresco
 
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Reply Thu 20 Jan, 2005 02:15 pm
smorgs

I applaud your efforts.

I also believe that organized religion is pernicious.

The problem is that "religious belief" seems to satisfy a psychological need in humans whether you consider it to be a cognitivevirus (like Dawkins) or an opiate (like Marx). Also "beliefs" are implicitly transmitted as an attribute of the semantic field during language acquistion and socialization. "Beliefs" serve to maintain the status quo of social pecking orders and to regulate sexual behaviour...both of which animals seem to cope with quite successfully without evocation of a deity!
And it is interesting that some of our nearest relatives, the primates, appear also to suffer the side effects of "intelligence" by indulging in "ritual behaviour" and inter-tribal aggression and cruelty.

But no doubt clerics on both sides will continue to bless their flocks before they indulge in slaughtering each other, and explaining to the bereaved that "God moves in mysterious ways"!

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binnyboy
 
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Reply Thu 20 Jan, 2005 11:58 pm
compelling to you, frank
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