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edgarblythe
 
Reply Sun 5 Nov, 2017 03:55 pm
About 11 AM. He just walked in and started shooting. After a brief chase the shooter was killed. No picture, no ID of shooter offered to the public as yet.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sun 5 Nov, 2017 05:31 pm
-New York Times reported that 26-year-old Devin Kelley, of Comal County, as the shooter.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sun 5 Nov, 2017 05:41 pm
BREAKING: Devin Patrick Kelley Has Been Identified As Texas Church Shooter…UPDATE: Was Dishonorably Discharged, Court Martialed In 2014

Devin Patrick Kelley has been identified as the gunman who killed at least 24 people at a church in Texas, a U.S. official tells The Daily Beast. Kelley, 26, was a resident of New Braunfels, a suburb of San Antonio, according to public records. Kelley was married and Kelley’s mother-in-law listed a P.O. box in Sutherland Springs as a mailing address. San Antonio police reportedly raided Kelley’s home on Sunday evening.
A LinkedIn account appearing to belong to Kelley describes him as serving in the U.S. Air Force from his 2009 high-school graduation until 2013, after which he briefly taught at a summer Bible school. On a now-deleted Facebook account, Kelley recently displayed an AR-15 style gun, ABC News reports.

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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Mon 6 Nov, 2017 10:10 am
Motive
Officials said they did not immediately know a motive for the attack. However, on Monday morning Wilson County Sheriff Joe Tackitt told CNNthat Kelley had in-laws who attended the church. Tackitt said the in-laws were not present at the time of the massacre, but came to the church after hearing about the shooting
glitterbag
 
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Reply Mon 6 Nov, 2017 11:53 am
@edgarblythe,
It’s horrific, but we did get a “thoughts and prayers” message from the President who is currently debasing the USA in Japan. He was quick to remind everyone it wasn’t a gun problem 😳 its a mental health problem. It’s not as serious as an immigrant plowing his car into unsuspecting people....that terrorist needs to be shot and plus it’s Hillary’s fault.

I guess we are supposed to breath easier because the Texas shooter is ‘mentally ill’ not a unpatriotic terrorist. We can only be outraged when the killer is a mentally ill immigrant, in which case he should be sent to Gitmo.

edgarblythe
 
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Reply Mon 6 Nov, 2017 01:10 pm
@glitterbag,
To me it no longer matters the motive, ethnicity or ideology of the shooters. I see no reason innocents are slaughtered by the thousands and not enough people care to do anything about it, other than make excuses.
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Mon 6 Nov, 2017 01:46 pm
https://scontent.fhou1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/23316727_684485005089525_5357999973593792357_n.jpg?oh=b9875db3a8216a729f4c37e936ae2351&oe=5AAEAABB
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Mon 6 Nov, 2017 04:02 pm
Michael Moore
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Ok, after hearing the history of the Texas gunman, I finally get it. Before you can buy a gun in the USA, you first can beat your wife, then you can beat your child, then, after you've served jail time for that, you can be court-martialed and removed from the military for “bad conduct,” and THEN, after all that, you can have an hour-long stand-off with police after you’ve clubbed your dog in the head - after which you are then arrested for animal cruelty — AND THEN AND ONLY THEN you can go out a legally buy the assault weapon of your choice! WHY DOESN’T ANY OTHER COUNTRY FOLLOW OUR FINE EXAMPLE?!
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Mon 6 Nov, 2017 05:10 pm
http://www.gunviolencearchive.org

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The Gun Violence Archive is an online archive of gun violence incidents collected from over 2,500 media, law enforcement, government and commercial sources daily in an effort to provide near-real time data about the results of gun violence. GVA in an independent data collection and research group with no affiliation with any advocacy organization.




2017 to today

http://www.gunviolencearchive.org/sites/default/files/charts-and-maps/framed/51fd6d40-2abd-4a58-9e24-7ac72fd4fbde.png?ts=1510005600
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Mon 6 Nov, 2017 05:12 pm
Code:Total Number of Incidents 52,477
Number of Deaths1 13,181
Number of Injuries1 26,992
Number of Children (age 0-11)
Killed or Injured1 618
Number of Teens (age 12-17)
Killed or Injured1 2,761
Mass Shooting2 307
Officer Involved Incident
Officer Shot or Killed2 262
Officer Involved Incident
Subject-Suspect Shot or Killed2 1,762
Home Invasion2 2,107
Defensive Use2 1,724
Unintentional Shooting2 1,701

Gun violence and crime incidents are collected/validated from 2,500 sources daily
– incidents and their source data are found at the gunviolencearchive.org website.

1: Actual number of deaths and injuries
2: Number of INCIDENTS reported and verified

22,000 Annual Suicides not included on Daily Summary Ledger

Numbers on this table reflect a subset of all information
collected and will not add to 100% of incidents.

www.gunviolencearchive.org www.facebook.com/gunviolencearchive

Data Validated: November 06, 2017
ehBeth
 
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Reply Mon 6 Nov, 2017 05:14 pm
@ehBeth,
That's a lot of dead Americans.
ehBeth
 
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Reply Mon 6 Nov, 2017 05:15 pm
https://www.vox.com/a/mass-shootings-sandy-hook

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After Sandy Hook we said never again. And then we let 1,552 mass shootings happen.

Updated by German Lopez, Ryan Mark and Soo Oh on November 6, 2017, 12:46 p.m. ET

In December 2012, a gunman walked into Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut, and killed 20 children, six adults, and himself. Since then, there have been at least 1,552 mass shootings, with at least 1,767 people killed and 6,227 wounded.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 6 Nov, 2017 05:34 pm
@edgarblythe,
edgarblythe wrote:
The gun nuts don't give a **** how unbalanced they are. No gun control, no matter what. It's possible to make piles like this, from American gun victims every year. But gun nuts don't give a ****.

"Gun control" isn't even designed to save lives. "Gun control" proponents just like violating people's civil rights for fun. That is why they are properly referred to as Freedom Haters.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 6 Nov, 2017 05:35 pm
@edgarblythe,
edgarblythe wrote:
To me it no longer matters the motive, ethnicity or ideology of the shooters. I see no reason innocents are slaughtered by the thousands and not enough people care to do anything about it, other than make excuses.

The problem is there isn't much that can be done, short of giving people better social support so they never reach the point of deciding to go on killing sprees.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 6 Nov, 2017 05:36 pm
@edgarblythe,
edgarblythe wrote:
https://scontent.fhou1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/23316727_684485005089525_5357999973593792357_n.jpg?oh=b9875db3a8216a729f4c37e936ae2351&oe=5AAEAABB

This racist tweet is factually incorrect. The NRA would never give Congress permission to pass such a law.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Mon 6 Nov, 2017 06:03 pm
Thanks, oralloy. We can always depend on you to show us what we are fighting against.
oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 6 Nov, 2017 06:12 pm
@edgarblythe,
You're fighting against freedom and civil rights.

What reason do you have for banning pistol grips on a rifle, other than the joy you get from violating other people's rights?
glitterbag
 
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Reply Mon 6 Nov, 2017 10:33 pm
@oralloy,
Wow, I didn’t realize Congress needs permission from the NRA to tend to America’s business. I didn’t vote for any of those nutters in the NRA leadership, I want you to tell me where I can go to register. Oh and by the way, I own a weapon. You worship Weapons of masss destruction, own it for Christ sake. Everybody has your number, no point in pretending you honor the the entire Constitution or Bill of Rights. That ship sailed, go upstairs and ask your momma.
oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 6 Nov, 2017 11:39 pm
@glitterbag,
glitterbag wrote:
Wow, I didn’t realize Congress needs permission from the NRA to tend to America’s business.

Well now you do know.


glitterbag wrote:
I didn’t vote for any of those nutters in the NRA leadership, I want you to tell me where I can go to register.

We gun rights advocates prefer to select our own leaders. We choose not to give you a say in who our leaders are.


glitterbag wrote:
Oh and by the way, I own a weapon.

That's nice. But what does it have to do with the price of tea in China?


glitterbag wrote:
You worship Weapons of masss destruction, own it for Christ sake.

Are you somehow implying that I don't own it?


glitterbag wrote:
Everybody has your number, no point in pretending you honor the the entire Constitution or Bill of Rights.

Which part do I supposedly not honor?


glitterbag wrote:
That ship sailed, go upstairs and ask your momma.

Here you're speaking gibberish. I'm unsure how to respond to gibberish.
 

 
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