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Employer Can Force Women to Wear Makeup

 
 
timberlandko
 
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Reply Fri 31 Dec, 2004 01:00 am
Its not a Title VII issue. The court determined that Jespersen could not assert a cause of action under Title VII. The employee's gender was not an issue; the issue was the employee's non-compliance with a clearly stated employee dress code. The employee was offered equivalent non-public contact employment - same hours, benefits, etc, and the employee chose not to avail herself of the opportunity. The employee decided to get herself fired. Her choice, all around.

Yet another - and so far in this discussion unaddressed - inconvenience to Jespersen's case is the plain and simple fact that Nevada is an "At-Will Employment" state. Absent conractual provision to the contrary, which in this instance did not pertain, neither employer nor employee is required to offer any reason or justification for termination of employment. Subject to certain clearly defined public policy provisions, an employer may freely terminate any employee for any - or no - reason.

I imagine this will go en banc, and finally get kicked all the way to The Supremes. Since it took 4 years to get this far, it oughtta come to full flower not much sooner than 2012.
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Craven de Kere
 
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Reply Fri 31 Dec, 2004 01:35 am
littlek wrote:
Wait, so, if the company required men to wear makeup....?


Some do. Ever heard of what happened to the clown who refused to wear makeup?

Much ado about nothing.
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Debra Law
 
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Reply Fri 31 Dec, 2004 03:00 am
Title VII
timberlandko wrote:
Its not a Title VII issue. The court determined that Jespersen could not assert a cause of action under Title VII. The employee's gender was not an issue; the issue was the employee's non-compliance with a clearly stated employee dress code. The employee was offered equivalent non-public contact employment - same hours, benefits, etc, and the employee chose not to avail herself of the opportunity. The employee decided to get herself fired. Her choice, all around.


You are wrong. The Jespersen case is a case concerning a Title VII issue.

You are wrong. Jepersen's gender was an issue.

You are wrong. The employer's requirement that female employees wear make up is unlawful disparate treatment based on gender and unlawful sex stereotyping wherein the employer falsely believes that women who wear make up are superior employees to women who do not wear make up.

You are wrong. The employer's discriminatory policy was NOT the female employee's choice.


See DARLENE JESPERSEN v. HARRAH’S OPERATING COMPANY, INC.

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Plaintiff Darlene Jespersen, a bartender at Harrah’s Casino in Reno, Nevada, brought this Title VII action alleging that her employer’s policy requiring that certain female employees wear makeup discriminates against her on the basis of sex . . . .

Title VII prohibits employers from discriminating against “any individual with respect to . . . compensation, terms, conditions, or privileges of employment, because of such individual’s . . . sex.” 42 U.S.C. ยง 2000e-2(a)(1). In order to prevail on a Title VII disparate treatment sex discrimination claim, an employee need only establish that, but for his or her sex, he or she would have been treated differently. UAW v. Johnson Controls, Inc., 499 U.S. 187, 200 (1991) (citing Los Angeles Dep’t of Water & Power v. Manhart, 435 U.S. 702, 711 (1978)). . . .

[Ninth Circuit applies "Unequal Burdens Test" to to gender-differentiated dress and grooming requirements.]

In order to evaluate the relative burdens the “Personal Best” policy imposes, we must assess the actual impact that it has on both male and female employees. In doing so we must weigh the cost and time necessary for employees of each sex to comply with the policy.



BUT SEE PRICE WATERHOUSE v. HOPKINS, 490 U.S. 228 (1989):

In order to obtain a partnership position, Hopkins was advised that she should "walk more femininely, talk more femininely, dress more femininely, wear make-up, have her hair styled, and wear jewelry."

The Hopkins case, just like the Jespersen case, was a disparate TREATMENT case (not a disparate impact case). The Supreme Court held:

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. . . As these examples demonstrate, our assumption always has been that if an employer allows gender to affect its decision-making process, then it must carry the burden of justifying its ultimate decision. We have not in the past required women whose gender has proved relevant to an employment decision to establish the negative proposition that they would not have been subject to that decision had they been men, and we do not do so today. . . . .

As for the legal relevance of sex stereotyping, we are beyond the day when an employer could evaluate employees by assuming or insisting that they matched the stereotype associated with their group, for "`n forbidding employers to discriminate against individuals because of their sex, Congress intended to strike at the entire spectrum of disparate treatment of men and women resulting from sex stereotypes.'" Los Angeles Dept. of Water and Power v. Manhart, 435 U.S. 702, 707 , n. 13 (1978), quoting Sprogis v. United Air Lines, Inc., 444 F.2d 1194, 1198 (CA7 1971).


In a disparate TREATMENT case, Hopkins was able to show that she was not promoted to a partner because her employer used sex stereotypes and told her that she should "walk more femininely, talk more femininely, dress more femininely, wear make-up, have her hair styled, and wear jewelry."

Likewise, in the Ninth Circuit, the Jespersen case was also a disparate TREATMENT case. She was NOT required to put forth a disparate IMPACT case nor was she required to establish the negative proposition that she would not have been subject to the decision had she been men nor was she required to meet an "unequal burdens" test.

This was a disparate TREATMENT case; not a disparate IMPACT test. And yet, the Ninth's Circuit's application of an "unequal burdens" test turned this disparate treatment case into a disparate impact case and then took the BFOQ exception and watered it down into meaningless puddle.

But for the Ninth Circuit's use of the "unequal burdens" test, this disparate treatment case would be no different that the U.S. Supreme Court disparate treatment case wherein Hopkins was able to show that an employment decision was based on unlawful gender discrimination.



timberlandko wrote:
Yet another - and so far in this discussion unaddressed - inconvenience to Jespersen's case is the plain and simple fact that Nevada is an "At-Will Employment" state. Absent conractual provision to the contrary, which in this instance did not pertain, neither employer nor employee is required to offer any reason or justification for termination of employment. Subject to certain clearly defined public policy provisions, an employer may freely terminate any employee for any - or no - reason.


FYI: Title VII is the Supreme Law of the Land. It trumps state law. Unlawful discrimination is an exception to the "at will" employment doctrine. An employer in an "at will employment" state can no more fire an employee because she's a woman (who refuses to wear make up when wearing make up is not a BFOQ) than it could fire an employee because of his/her race.
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Debra Law
 
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Reply Fri 31 Dec, 2004 03:05 am
BFOQ
Craven de Kere wrote:
littlek wrote:
Wait, so, if the company required men to wear makeup....?


Some do. Ever heard of what happened to the clown who refused to wear makeup?

Much ado about nothing.


Perhaps wearing make up is a BFOQ for a clown, but not a BFOQ for a female bartender. The two are not similarly situated.
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Craven de Kere
 
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Reply Fri 31 Dec, 2004 04:04 am
I wasn't making the case for their similarities in the purpose or need of the makeup, just illustrating that being "forced" to wear makeup in the workplace is nothing new and, in my opinion, unremarkable.

Some companies make the men wear this stupid noose around their necks.
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Debra Law
 
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Reply Fri 31 Dec, 2004 05:59 am
Ninth Circuit
Elysa J. Yanowitz v. L'oreal USA, Inc.

Plaintiff Elysa Yanowitz was a regional sales manager for defendant L’Oreal USA, Inc. (L’Oreal), a cosmetics and fragrance company. A male L’Oreal executive ordered Yanowitz to fire a female employee in her region because the executive found the employee insufficiently attractive. Yanowitz was asked to get him someone “hot” instead. She asked for a better reason. The executive and another executive, who was Yanowitz’s immediate supervisor, subjected her to heightened scrutiny and increasingly hostile evaluations over the ensuing months. Within four months, Yanowitz went on stress leave, and her position was eventually filled. . . .

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Sex discrimination in the workplace comes in many guises. In a most basic form, it involves outright exclusion of women, solely by reason of their sex. Even where women have gained access to the workplace, sex discrimination may persist in other forms, for example, through identification of particular jobs as “man-only” or “woman-only” jobs, through perpetuation of a glass ceiling that ensures women will only rise so high on the corporate ladder, or through the unwritten establishment of two sets of rules for success: for men, based on performance, and for women, based on appearance . . . .

Just as an employer may not impose broad rules that regulate men and women differently based on their appearance or sexual desirability, so an employer may not discriminate against specific individuals on these bases. For example, in Priest v. Rotary (N.D.Cal. 1986) 634 F.Supp. 571, an employer demoted a cocktail waitress who refused to wear sexually suggestive attire. The court recognized this as unlawful sex discrimination. (Id. at p. 581.) Similarly, in E.E.O.C. v. Sage Rlty. Corp. (S.D.N.Y. 1981) 507 F.Supp. 599, the employer insisted that a female office building lobby attendant wear a sexually revealing uniform. When the employee refused, she was dismissed. The court concluded that the employee was required to wear the revealing uniform because she was a woman, and that she had made out a prima facie case of sex discrimination. (Id. at pp. 607-608.)
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Debra Law
 
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Reply Fri 31 Dec, 2004 07:03 am
discrimination based on sex
Title VII -- History concerning prohibition of discrimination based on SEX.

Sex Discrimination

http://www.eeoc.gov/abouteeoc/35th/1965-71/shaping.html

EEOC had expected to receive very few charges of sex discrimination in its early years. It had assumed that the vast majority of charges would allege race discrimination because Title VII had been debated and passed in a racially-tense environment and most of the Congressional and media attention had focused on the problem of race discrimination. It was a surprise to find that fully one third of the charges (33.5 percent) filed in the first year alleged sex discrimination. After all, the prohibition against sex discrimination had been added as a last minute amendment by Congressman Howard Smith of Virginia who opposed the civil rights legislation and thought that Congress would reject a bill that mandated equal rights for women.


Indeed, most supporters of Title VII initially opposed the Smith amendment because they, too, thought that it would doom the legislation. The amendment stayed in because female members of Congress argued that there was a need to protect equal job opportunities for women. Congresswoman Katherine St. George of New York argued that she could think of "nothing more logical than this amendment" and that while women did not need any special privileges "because we outlast you, we outlive you, . . . we are entitled to this little crumb of equality." The need for this "little crumb of equality" was dramatically illustrated by the unexpectedly large number of sex discrimination charges filed in that first year.
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Fri 31 Dec, 2004 10:30 am
Rant all you want, Debra - you - and Jespersen and St. George and Lambda Legal Defense - still lose. The 9th Circus specifically held no relief was available to the plaintiff under Title VII. The plaintiff failed to demonstrate either discrimination or onerous burden.

An employer has the right to stucture workplace rules as the employer sees fit, subject, as said before to certain clearly defined public policy issues, contractual obligations, or health and safety concerns. An employee has the right to accept or refuse employment under the terms offered by the employer. No one is being forced to do anything.

You may think I'm wrong - and that the 9th Circus and the previous courts that all have held for Harrah's in this case are wrong, but by law, as determined by multiple court decisions, you are wrong; Jespersen is entitled to no relief. Thats the law, and so it shall remain unless and untill Jespersen manages to prevail at a higher level ... which frankly I don't see much prospect for.
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blueveinedthrobber
 
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Reply Fri 31 Dec, 2004 10:32 am
Re: BFOQ
Debra_Law wrote:
Craven de Kere wrote:
littlek wrote:
Wait, so, if the company required men to wear makeup....?


Some do. Ever heard of what happened to the clown who refused to wear makeup?

Much ado about nothing.


Perhaps wearing make up is a BFOQ for a clown, but not a BFOQ for a female bartender. The two are not similarly situated.


clowns and bartenders have a symbiotic relationship Debra....
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boomerang
 
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Reply Fri 31 Dec, 2004 10:56 am
I'll wager that companies that require men to wear ties require women to wear pantyhose.

I'll wager that companies that have facial hair standards for me would have an absolute conniption fit should the women decide to stop shaving their legs and armpits.

In my opinion there is no male equivilent to makeup. Most women prefer to wear it, some don't. Some men prefer women who wear it, some don't.

Some women have allergies to makeup.

Some women won't wear it because the companies test it on animals.

Some women don't wear it because they have wonderful skin and don't need it.

Some women don't wear it because they would rather spend their money on something else.

I really have a hard time seeing how makeup improves job preformance.
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Fri 31 Dec, 2004 11:10 am
Its not a matter of job performance - grooming standards and dress code are entirely within the purview of an employer's discretion. The courts repeatedly and consistently have so held. There's plenty of case-law precedent.

I wager a lotta contemporary youth find the hardware hangin' off their faces render certain employment - particularly that involving public contact concerning anything more than fast food or convenience store/gas station clerkin' - out of their reach.
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CalamityJane
 
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Reply Fri 31 Dec, 2004 12:05 pm
What about nurses who are not allowed to wear make-up,
jewelery, perfume and have to have short grommed finger nails?

Certain professions do have a dress code and grooming
standards that require them to follow these rules.
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Fri 31 Dec, 2004 12:53 pm
Merry Andrew wrote:
In our society, it is widely accepted that for a woman to be considered well-groomed, a discreet amount of makeup is expected to be a part of the get-up.


Are you serious, MA? It hasn't been like that since the Dallas/Dynasty days. I don't know many women under 40 who wear make-up any more than hamburger (the king of chapstick) does.
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smorgs
 
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Reply Fri 31 Dec, 2004 01:35 pm
Very interesting thread! I would consider myself a feminist, and yet I agree with Ticomaya. Shocked I don't think it's unreasonable for an employer providing a certain service to expect employees to conform to their expectations. Before you jump on me though...

I work for a Government department - 2 years ago they brought in a dress code, it covered things like not wearing logos on shirts, trainers, showing political affilliations through dress, football regalia and so on. The main sticking point was the requirement for men to wear a shirt and tie. The union (PCS) challenged the code in the High Court - and won! The code was amended on the grounds that to force men to wear shirt and ties was sexual descrimination, the other requirements remain. I fully support mens right not to wear a shirt and tie.

The main purpose of the code was to ensure staff were groomed and clean, nothing more. I believe it would be disrespectful to the public (that we serve) to be anything else. The goverment pay my wages, they have a right to expect a certain standard. If I wanted to dress in a more casual way, I would have chosen a different job.

I don't know of any women who like places such as Hooters and their ilk, but we live in a free world (most of us) and have freedom of choice. I have exercised my choice NOT to work in an establishment where it was the norm for female workers to wear make-up. But if I CHOSE to work in a casino I would assume certain expectations by my employer. It would be very naive not to.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Sat 1 Jan, 2005 12:03 am
I am mixed, in the jobs have certain requirements, should be stated in writing before you take them, and if not, dem maybe ain't required, though I understand very well 'performance' expectations.

As in certain land use and code issues, I personally don't care of what material a community builds its fences as long as they don't go over x height (and so on).

As to makeup, I have observed that east coast US women have been, in my lifetime, more interested in makeup than west coast, but by now I may be wrong, even if I was right earlier.

Maybe it's due to a weather factor. Plain old skin is pretty good for everyday in California, and maybe that has influenced younger people in other places, via tv, or maybe younger people are newly wondering about it on their own.
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littlek
 
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Reply Sat 1 Jan, 2005 12:37 am
funny, I think we tend to wear less makeup here in the NE than in Cali. Maybe not more than the NW. Hmmm....
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Sat 1 Jan, 2005 12:54 am
Me and m'friends, and back there I had lots, were not makeup prone, but never mind us, neither were people walking down the street past us.

Ok, my niece is visiting me. She is one of the great dancers at her school. I see her make up. Some mascara. There you go... (In the meantime, cars sort of careen...)

I am now beginning to posit makeup as a northern thing to bring color to cheeks in cold weather.
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Sat 1 Jan, 2005 01:37 am
Just to head this toward the gutter, I'll say its entirely unnescessary for a woman to dress to please me ... I in fact prefer 'em otherwise Twisted Evil Mr. Green :wink:
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Sat 1 Jan, 2005 01:43 am
Meeting at the gutter, now then, what is our question of discordance?
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Sat 1 Jan, 2005 01:56 am
Backing off of my previous posts' riffing, I don't know anything about the law on this stuff.

I can see where certain businesses care about makeup.
To me they're panderers all. (Not that there is anything wrong with that...)
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