max, you seem to think it's your nuanced positions that cause negative reactions from liberals. I think it's your style of argumentation. I had one run-in with you about factory farming when I first returned to A2K and you were so doctrinaire, so dismissive, and so arrogant that I decided to avoid any interactions with you in the future. In fact, I'll probably regret responding on this thread!
Maybe you are right about my style of argumentation.
I express my opinions pretty strongly, and I defend them until (in my judgement) they are refuted. I have admitted to being wrong on several occasions (I am quite proud of that). When someone brings up a new argument that I can't counter, I enjoy that; having my opinions challenged is why I am here. If that pisses people off... there is always the ignore button.
I vaguely remember the argument about Factory Farming... I think you are referring to Edgar's thread. I stated my opinion and responded to the counter opinions. I didn't find any argument that I felt challenged my viewpoint. It is your judgement whether I am "dismissive" or "arrogant". I do feel quite strongly that Edgar's position (and I assume yours) is wrong according to the facts. And, I think I said that without attacking Edgar or you... I can strongly disagree with you without attacking you as a person.
And... of course you have the choice to avoid interactions with me.
The issue is the concerted campaign by Setanta, Centrox, Izzy, Osso and others to stifle certain opinions and viewpoints using personal attacks
These people go from thread to thread, not only arguing the points... but insulting and name-calling the people making the points. The vast majority of Setanta's posts (and you can look at his recent points and count yourself) contain personal attacks on someone's intelligence with no real response to the topic under discussion.
Yes, I argue my opinions strongly. I am wiling to say that a point of view is ridiculous (which I think is valid in a discussion). I refrain from attacking anyone personally (except in response to a personal attack)... and I certainly don't carry grudges from thread to thread. There is a big difference between attacking a viewpoint and attacking you personally. Many people here seem to have a problem with not taking debate about ideas personally.
People who want to avoid any arguments with anyone who has a different viewpoint are in the wrong place. Able2Know provides a great deal of freedom of expression with pretty much anyone who wants to come in. This means that if you are here, you will run into people who disagree with you. For you and them to argue your points is really what Able2Know does best
There are platforms that allow you to filter out opinions you don't like so that you only interact with people who agree with you. Try Facebook.