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The teams were equal at half-time

 
 
Glennn
 
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Reply Tue 29 Aug, 2017 11:59 am
@paok1970,
Do not take Setanta's advice. No one would say, "The teams were tied at half-time." Teams are not tied; games or scored are tied. So you would say, "The game was tied at halftime." Or, "The score was tied at halftime."

Setanta has also erred in his attempt to emphasize the word tied. If you wish to emphasize a word, simply use italics or use bold print, but don't use both like Setanta did. It gives the impression that one is afraid of not being heard. I've mentioned this to him before, but he is set in his ways.

Here is something about that:

Nev­er­the­less, some writ­ers—let’s call them over­em­pha­siz­ers—just can’t get enough bold and italic. If they feel strongly about the point they’re mak­ing, they won’t hes­i­tate to run the whole para­graph in bold type. Don’t be one of these peo­ple. This habit wears down your read­ers’ reti­nas and their pa­tience. It also gives you nowhere to go when you need to em­pha­size a word. That’s no prob­lem for overem­pha­siz­ers, who re­sort to un­der­lin­ing bold text or us­ing bold italic. These are both bad ideas.

http://practicaltypography.com/bold-or-italic.html
Setanta
 
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Reply Tue 29 Aug, 2017 12:03 pm
@Glennn,
I can immediate point out your seemingly endless tirade to the effect that one cannot say "in the road." or "in the street." That is a common usage in Britain and the Commonwealth. Internet warrior that you are, you attempted to bully me into silence, and talked about the "logic" of your preferred usage. There are few things more idiotic than applying claims of "logic" to language usage, in any language. You have no business responding to threads such as this, just as I should have specified that my response was for American usage.

Setanta
 
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Reply Tue 29 Aug, 2017 12:04 pm
@paok1970,
You're welcome, and I will try to remember to point out that I am providing the North American usage.
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centrox
 
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Reply Tue 29 Aug, 2017 12:04 pm
@Glennn,
Glennn wrote:
No one would say, "The teams were tied at half-time."

Oh. Right.

Ignore the first (for obvious reasons), and seems BrE/AmE agnostic...
https://i.imgbox.com/9xxjNFTp.jpg
Setanta
 
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Reply Tue 29 Aug, 2017 12:07 pm
When Glennnnnn attempted to bully me into silence in the thread about "in the street," one of his incredibly stupid internet warrior tricks was to attempt to claim that I was wrong to use bold-faced italics. I should not have responded to him, because he will argue endlessly, just because he can. But Paok has excellent skills as an English-language learner and I would hope that we can help him out.
Glennn
 
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Reply Tue 29 Aug, 2017 02:11 pm
@centrox,
Here are examples of when it is correct to say that a game was tied:

In the National Football League (NFL), a tied game occurs when a regular season game ends with both teams having an equal score.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NFL_tied_games

In college baseball, a conference will declare a game may be tied in extenuating circumstances, usually in the final game of a series only:

Basketball: Ties are somewhat rare in basketball due to the high-scoring nature of the game: if the score is tied at the end of

http://dictionary.sensagent.com/Tie%20(draw)/en-en/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NFL_tied_games

In the National Football League (NFL), a tied game occurs when a regular season game …
Tied games (1920 to 1973) · Tied games (1974 to 2011) · Tied games (2012 to 2016)

Had Buckner not committed this error, the game would have either remained tied with runners on first and third for the next batter (if Wilson was safe) or would have gone to an 11th inning (if Wilson had been out).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extra_innings

Here are examples of when it is correct to say that teams are tied:

What would happen if 3 teams were tied for a playoff spot ...

https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110602195251AAamGzv

Jun 02, 2011 · Let's just say that the Brewers, Marlins, and Braves are all tied for a wild card spot. They finished with the same record and have been eliminated from ...

NFL Tiebreaking Procedures. ... If two teams are tied for a position, both teams are awarded the ranking as if they held it solely.

http://www.nfl.com/standings/tiebreakingprocedures
____________________________________________________

So, we see that teams can be tied when it comes to their positions in rankings, while games are tied when it comes to scores. It's not rocket science.
centrox
 
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Reply Tue 29 Aug, 2017 02:18 pm
@Glennn,
Glennn wrote:

Here are examples of when it is correct to say that a game was tied:
... lots of American examples

I gave a screenshot of lots of examples that are also "correct". What's your point?

Sturgis
 
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Reply Tue 29 Aug, 2017 02:22 pm
@Glennn,
Quote:
No one would say, "The teams were tied at halftime."


Glenn: I've been kept late at work, how are the Steelers and Chargers doing?

Vern: The teams were tied at halftime and still are, with less than a minute to go in regular play.

Maybe Glennn would not say tied, but, others would.
Glennn
 
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Reply Tue 29 Aug, 2017 02:24 pm
@Setanta,
Quote:
You have no business responding to threads such as this, just as I should have specified that my response was for American usage.

Oh, I see. Why don't you produce the source for your idea that italicized bold print is the proper way to emphasize words? You have no business passing your bad habits onto unsuspecting posters. I've provided something to show your error. One would think that that would be enough.
Quote:
I can immediate point out your seemingly endless tirade to the effect that one cannot say "in the road." or "in the street."

I recall pointing out to you that one pulls into an enclosed area, like a drive-in or a driveway, while you pushed the idea that one pulls into a highway. One pulls onto a highway.
centrox
 
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Reply Tue 29 Aug, 2017 02:28 pm
@Glennn,
Glennn wrote:
one pulls into an enclosed area, like a drive-in or a driveway, while you pushed the idea that one pulls into a highway. One pulls onto a highway.

Where I live, one pulls (or turns) into a street or road in a town, village or city, and onto a main inter-city road or freeway.
Glennn
 
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Reply Tue 29 Aug, 2017 02:30 pm
@Sturgis,
Quote:
Maybe Glennn would not say tied, but, others would.

Yeah, others who don't know the difference.

Here's something for you as well, since some people don't get it the first time around.

Here are examples of when it is correct to say that a game was tied:

In the National Football League (NFL), a tied game occurs when a regular season game ends with both teams having an equal score.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NFL_tied_games

In college baseball, a conference will declare a game may be tied in extenuating circumstances, usually in the final game of a series only:

Basketball: Ties are somewhat rare in basketball due to the high-scoring nature of the game: if the score is tied at the end of

http://dictionary.sensagent.com/Tie%20(draw)/en-en/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NFL_tied_games

In the National Football League (NFL), a tied game occurs when a regular season game …
Tied games (1920 to 1973) · Tied games (1974 to 2011) · Tied games (2012 to 2016)

Had Buckner not committed this error, the game would have either remained tied with runners on first and third for the next batter (if Wilson was safe) or would have gone to an 11th inning (if Wilson had been out).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extra_innings

Here are examples of when it is correct to say that teams are tied:

What would happen if 3 teams were tied for a playoff spot ...

https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110602195251AAamGzv

Jun 02, 2011 · Let's just say that the Brewers, Marlins, and Braves are all tied for a wild card spot. They finished with the same record and have been eliminated from ...

NFL Tiebreaking Procedures. ... If two teams are tied for a position, both teams are awarded the ranking as if they held it solely.

http://www.nfl.com/standings/tiebreakingprocedures
____________________________________________________

So, we see that teams can be tied when it comes to their positions in rankings, while games are tied when it comes to scores. It's not rocket science.
Glennn
 
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Reply Tue 29 Aug, 2017 02:34 pm
@Setanta,
Quote:
one of his incredibly stupid internet warrior tricks was to attempt to claim that I was wrong to use bold-faced italics.

It wasn't an incredibly stupid internet warrior tricks to tell you that it's wrong to use bold-faced italics. What is incredibly stupid is using bold-faced italics, and then insulting the one who corrects you.

Did you miss this:

Nev­er­the­less, some writ­ers—let’s call them over­em­pha­siz­ers—just can’t get enough bold and italic. If they feel strongly about the point they’re mak­ing, they won’t hes­i­tate to run the whole para­graph in bold type. Don’t be one of these peo­ple. This habit wears down your read­ers’ reti­nas and their pa­tience. It also gives you nowhere to go when you need to em­pha­size a word. That’s no prob­lem for overem­pha­siz­ers, who re­sort to un­der­lin­ing bold text or us­ing bold italic. These are both bad ideas.

http://practicaltypography.com/bold-or-italic.html

Now don't forget how we got here. You mentioned my name in this thread for your own reasons.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 29 Aug, 2017 02:37 pm
@centrox,
I think his point is that those who believe bollocks about 9/11 tend to go mental bollocks on grammar threads.

He's not the first mental bollocker to fit the profile.
Glennn
 
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Reply Tue 29 Aug, 2017 02:42 pm
@izzythepush,
Ah, izzy the stupid troll. Hey, I've got an idea. Why don't you go to the appropriate thread and get whatever it is about 9/11 that's bugging the hell out of you off your chest. Then you'll be less inclined to be a stupid troll. I'll wait for you over there. I've provided directions for you. Should be fun . . .

https://able2know.org/topic/369947-56
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Sturgis
 
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Reply Tue 29 Aug, 2017 02:56 pm
@Glennn,
You do realize that you are referring to the final outcome of a game. I am referring to where the teams stand at halftime (although they can be tied up at various times in the game).


Then again, you probably don't realize and need to get back to your book, See Spot Run while your nursemaid prepares some mashed taters for you.
paok1970
 
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Reply Tue 29 Aug, 2017 03:43 pm
@centrox,
What do you mean by "and seems BrE/AmE agnostic..."?

Thanks again for the help.
centrox
 
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Reply Tue 29 Aug, 2017 03:47 pm
@paok1970,
paok1970 wrote:
What do you mean by "and seems BrE/AmE agnostic..."?

...and seems equally present in (unaware of differences between) American English (AmE) and British English (BrE).

Some software is platform-agnostic (it will run on Windows, Mac, Linux, Unix etc)
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paok1970
 
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Reply Tue 29 Aug, 2017 03:56 pm
@Glennn,
It wasn't an incredibly stupid internet warrior tricks to tell you that.....

I'm a bit picky. Why did you use "tricks (plural)" and not "trick (singular)"?
Glennn
 
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Reply Tue 29 Aug, 2017 04:22 pm
@paok1970,
Good eye! That was an honest typo.
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Glennn
 
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Reply Tue 29 Aug, 2017 04:39 pm
@Sturgis,
Funny. I just produced examples that show that teams can be tied when it comes to their positions in rankings, while games are tied when it comes to scores, and now here you trying to convince me that referring to the final outcome of a game makes a difference when it comes to teams being tied and games being tied. Of course I'm going to ask you to provide some proof that what you're saying isn't bullshit. So where did you pull your bullshit idea from?

See Sturgis fall . . .
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