Can we ever be completely satisfied?

Eeeks! In this world, sweet Lucifer, you shall never run short of victims. Might have to put off more reading for awhile. I've never heard of a slow day in hell Lots of people are just dying to get there!

And thank you, very sincerely for the lovely compliment. It means a lot to me....

You're too sweet to go to hell. Nor do I have any intention of torturing you--at least not yet. The only suckers that ever go to hell are those that ask for it or those that don't know any better--your usual ignorami, evil people, sadists, masochists, and of course, sadomasochists.

Oh but wait! What if I said the same of you? You're too sweet to go to hell? At least you are to me....so far, oh torturer! I just may have to rely on your accounts of being there, in hell. I love the heat, but wouldn't want to live in the Sahara, you know?

Well, it depends. Generally, it's quite warm, not really hot, but warm, you know, like furnace warm. But there are hot spots, where all the lava is, and we have some ice chambers for a different method of torture. I like the ice chambers best. Cold weather is nice. But if it gets too cold there, then I'm off to the lava hot springs.

Are you tempting me? Lava springs and toasty warm....I don't do cold well at all. Is there a premium package one could choose for just the warmth and a daily massage?

Hmm...That means I'm going to have to ask Satan for some sort of hell passes, so you don't stay there forever, and with the rate at which the souls are entering hell...It might get a little overcrowded. Lava springs are really, really hot. Hot enough to melt your bones, but not your soul. That's why it's torture--you still live.

I was looking for more of the mud bath, jacuzzi, being totally pampered kind of thing.

Well, it's hell. What do you expect?

If you're looking for a jacuzzi, heaven might have one.

In the end Faust was saved because he never ceased his striving. Nuf said.

From a christian standpoint...
From a christian's standpoint, I'd say that we can never be satisfied in this physical world; but if we have our priorities straight, we don't even worry about our needs in this world. The only thing that [really] matters is that we live our lives for Christ. I'm not even saying that material things are bad,(like video games ) I'd say that when I look at my life as a whole, I think that I am pretty satisfied. I think that if I had everything in this world, except Christ, I would be missing something huge.

hmm, I i was offered "christ" , well not so much offered as given. I tried it out from Gr.3 - gr.6. It didnt fulfill me at all, and i when i started asking questions, and then got brushed aside by religion teachers for "asking too many questions, have faith" i ditched "christ". Worshipping an "annointed one" just doesnt suit me . . . . maybe ill try annoiting myself.

I'm curious, what are some of the questions that you wanted answered? Maybe I could try answering them for you. What have you taken on instead? Atheism?

Not atheism, agnosticism, universism . . . something along those lines. I realize that most of the questions that i had cannot be answered in many ways, and if you ask a christian a question (in general, in my experience) they give a biased answer and suggest you attend mass with them.

Organized religion, and catholicism in specific (as i used to be s part of) is too "ARMY" like, every mass they say "tell your neighbours, tell your friends, come to mass, tell them the good news is here and to rejoice". I think, "how is your news any better than the news down the streeet?"

For that matter, christians do not even exemplify christianity as i see it. From my perspective you cannot use the new testament and the old testament at the same time. You cant "love thy neighbour" and "stone the sinners" at the same time. it makes no bloody sense.

In my opinion, Jesus as a historical figure was a great guy, similar in respects to Martin Luther King Jr., and Buddha. He had a great message, his teachings as written are wonderful. Other than that, i do not see him as anything more, nor do i see any evidence that he is anything more than a great man.

I dont see how some christians can reject or neglect the teachings of Budhha, who in many respects was similar to Jesus. "right action, right speech . . . etc." Alot of christians see it as some sort of "satan" if you will, that opposes the church.And as history has taught us, all religion is, is an empire united under a biblical hierarchy rather than a governmental one.

As for believing in "god", i see no compelling evidence either way for existence or nom-existence so i just choose to step away from the believing or non-believing circle and just discuss the issue.

Sorry for the long post, but . . . . you were curious!

Two year olds and younger can be completely satisfied. I think once you get older you start to want rather than need.

You can be satisfied. There are times to be satisfied and to not be satisfied. It's funny that when people are satisfied sometimes there are fears of not doing something worthwhile. I think this fear is the last obstacle to satisfation.

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in response to Estrucia:

Honestly I can see where you are coming from, I can see how you would get a bad picture from church. It kind of makes me sick, some churches, get away from the idea that christianity is a relationship with Jesus, not just the attending of church.

As for your disbelief in Jesus as God, I'm kind of in the dark. You say that you believe that he existed, then how can rising from the dead not qualify him as more than just "a great man?" I also agree with you about religion, the bad rep that comes with that word makes it seem like just another system that our race of humans has made up, which is completly wrong. My faith in Christ is my life, not just some thing I do on Sundays. The trouble is that as Humans we always just turn everything into systems, which is unfortunate in some cases, because it makes everything less personal.

Rising from the dead . . . no proof alert! So in that case . . . I would agree with Binnyboy fully. It is foolish to think that man in his natural state is greedy, or short sighted, or destructive. It is the way we live which causes us to be like we are.

This is the why of religion. We only need salvationistic religion of course, if humans are instictively destructive, which they are not. We only need it if humans are instinctively greedy, which they are not.

We only need salvationistic religions if we are the culmination of everything, which of course we are not. Of course the world, the universe, was not made for humans, just like it wasnt made for gorillas, and it was not made for Jelly Fish, and it was not made for trilobytes.

In tribal cultures (as written and examined by Daniel Quinn in his books) which are untouched by our "taker" culture, there is not crime, there is not greed, there is not destructiveness, and it is sustainable.

Only by living in culture where we believe that we were made to rule the world, to conquer it, and bring it order (which is ironic because we are the ones who are unorderly) can we be greedy, or short-sighted or destructive.

DvK