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Republicans are going to vote to repeal Obamacare

 
 
Reply Mon 19 Jun, 2017 08:10 pm
13 men GOP members of congress met in privacy, and they are now going to bring up for a vote to Repeal and Replace Obamacare.
How much longer are American voters going to let these screwed up congress members legislate laws that will be detrimental to all Americans? We don't even know how it'll impact anyone, but especially women.
I, for one, will never again vote for a republican in any election.
I'm an Independent.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Mon 19 Jun, 2017 08:23 pm
@cicerone imposter,
I agree with you. It would help if mainstream media would stop ignoring the story.
glitterbag
 
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Reply Mon 19 Jun, 2017 08:30 pm
@cicerone imposter,
How did we get so indifferent? Telling lies has become acceptable, we are drowning in hate because we are lazy.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 19 Jun, 2017 08:31 pm
@edgarblythe,
It's a very sad time in our history when a guy like Trump with a 36% approval rating is our president, and the congress (13 GOP men) creates legislation and votes all of it in secret.
The congress' approval rating is 19%. We are doomed. ...Nobody seems to give a shyt.
Watch the GOP win the presidency and congress again - and again.....
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D45ist
 
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Reply Mon 19 Jun, 2017 09:15 pm
@cicerone imposter,
If we re lucky since Obamacare raised the price and lowered the benefits of health care.
glitterbag
 
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Reply Mon 19 Jun, 2017 10:11 pm
@D45ist ,
you're lucky, because you believe in fairy tales. The rest of us have to deal in reality. God bless.
Blickers
 
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Reply Mon 19 Jun, 2017 11:03 pm
@D45ist ,
Obamacare made healthcare affordable to millions through subsidized premiums. Republicans want to throw out the guaranteed subsidies and replace them with a tax credit that WON'T make up the difference the recipient goes down when losing the subsidies. Therefore, many millions who now have healthcare through Obamacare will not be able to pay their premiums and will lose their health insurance.

Help the rich, screw the poor.
tsarstepan
 
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Reply Tue 20 Jun, 2017 07:05 am
@cicerone imposter,
Wait a sec? Are you surprised that they are planning to do such a thing as repeal Obamacare? Haven't they been saying this for almost the past decade?
Blickers
 
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Reply Tue 20 Jun, 2017 12:12 pm
@tsarstepan,
Nobody was surprised when the Republicans tried to get rid of Obamacare, but their problem was Trump who promised during his campaign that he would not just get rid of Obamacare, he would replace it with a better plan that costs the consumer less and gives better care. He promised he would not just cut the Obamacare recipients off.

That meant that the Republicans had to come up with a plan to replace Obamacare, and they couldn't come up with a better one that covered everybody. Instead, they came up with an awful plan that would result in over 20 Million people losing their health insurance. The plan was so bad, the even the House didn't pass it at first. Then the House finally did, but the Senate Republicans didn't seem very interested in the plan even though the House passed it. Now the Senate Republicans are apparently planning to pass their own bill, presumably just as bad as the awful House bill, but we don't know because they aren't releasing the details or debating it in committee, the way a normal bill works.

That is what is surprising-once Trump tied getting rid of Obamacare to replacing it with a better bill, it looked like Congress was just going to let Obamacare continue because they couldn't come up with a decent replacement. Now it looks they're trying to ram through a very bad replacement, just for the sake of getting rid of Obamacare.
tsarstepan
 
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Reply Tue 20 Jun, 2017 01:36 pm
@Blickers,
You're not telling us anything new that hasn't been mentioned a few thousand times over the past 5 months.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 20 Jun, 2017 01:52 pm
@D45ist ,
You said "Obamacare raised the price and lowered the benefits." Please provide evidence for your claim.
Besides all that, FactCheck proves that the GOP claims about higher premiums and limiting doctor choices are mostly false.
http://www.factcheck.org/2013/09/obamacare-myths/
Blickers
 
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Reply Tue 20 Jun, 2017 02:22 pm
@tsarstepan,
Quote:
You're not telling us anything new that hasn't been mentioned a few thousand times over the past 5 months.


Maybe not, but the board is always getting new members. Very Happy
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 20 Jun, 2017 03:10 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Facts about Obamacare or ACA.
http://www.thesimpledollar.com/separating-obamacare-facts-from-fiction/
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Foofie
 
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Reply Wed 21 Jun, 2017 02:20 pm
Based on the need to let into the country the educated and talented, large corporations maintained cadillac health insurance plans for their employees, as a way to minimize employee turnover for those they wanted to keep in the organization. In my opinion, that is why corporate America does not want single payer national health care. Those expatriates from wherever would then job hop. It's all about keeping America more innovative and dynamic than global competition. This country was never for the masses to fat cat. For that one should be in Scandanavia.
Blickers
 
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Reply Wed 21 Jun, 2017 02:52 pm
@Foofie,
So we consider you as being on record that the government shouldn't do anything about guaranteeing middle class or poor people health care, only the wealthy should get it because they've shown some employer that they deserve it?
D45ist
 
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Reply Wed 21 Jun, 2017 05:24 pm
@glitterbag,
Gimme a break! Even Dem politicians admit it is a failure with their own lips.
They did not bother to say "hey, let's fix this". They just left that stinky pile of manure there to foul up the nation.

You don't have a problem with the FACT that the cost of MOST EVERY health care policy doubled? You don't have a problem with the fact that even the worst health care policy paid 80/20 and now you're lucky to get 60/40 for twice the price!?

What a tool. Taking it in the rear and liking it.
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D45ist
 
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Reply Wed 21 Jun, 2017 05:28 pm
@Blickers,
That's what you were told. Not the reality. I dropped healthcare for my employees. Thanks to Obamacare I no longer have to provide it. Those are the "uninsured" that bought Obamacare. He made them uninsured to sell them insurance. All he really did was transfer the cost from the employer to the employee.

You don't know a thing about the programs we had before Obamacare for the uninsured or the poor, do you? You really are brainwashed.
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Wed 21 Jun, 2017 05:36 pm
Obamacare is sort of a half realized vision. The next step is universal health care. I predict the administration that gets elected in 2020 will make an effort to make it happen.
ossobucotemp
 
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Reply Wed 21 Jun, 2017 05:37 pm
@edgarblythe,
for good reason
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Blickers
 
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Reply Wed 21 Jun, 2017 06:41 pm
@D45ist ,
QuoteD45:
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Not the reality. I dropped healthcare for my employees. Thanks to Obamacare I no longer have to provide it.

Correction: You did not have to provide it BEFORE Obamacare, either. Many employers didn't. Under Obamacare, employees are covered.
 

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