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Stem cell research v. organ/tissue donation

 
 
JamesMorrison
 
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Reply Sat 2 Apr, 2005 11:46 pm
Perhaps this has already been mentioned but how about this for a thought experiment:

Let's assume that those against the use of stem cells originating from boomerang's embryos have no moral problems with organ transplantation from deceased individuals. Additionally, let us assume science has advanced to where a cell from any organ in the body can now be turned into a stem cell and then further differentiated into any type of cell tissue (why not, they created Dolly, a whole sheep, did they not?).

Would the anti-stem cell research camp have a moral justification to stop such a procedure whereby live cells from a deceased individual could be made to produce specific organs destined for implantation to save other's lives? Indeed, would they, like President Bush, "error on the side of life" even given the possibility that these cells might possibly be used to clone another human? If not, Why?

JM
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skinywhtboy
 
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Reply Mon 4 Apr, 2005 08:47 am
Life
I think that it all boils down to when a fetus is considered "life". Or what you perceive as "life". Is it right when the egg and sperm connect? Is it 3 months of development? Is it right at birth? If so then women everywhere could be artificially inseminating themsleves and selling their fetusus for money. Quite scary but quite possible.
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Gelisgesti
 
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Reply Fri 20 May, 2005 05:25 am
Quote:
Scientists Create Customized Stem Cells
# Took 242 Donated Human Eggs To Grow One Batch

May 19, 2005 3:05 pm US/Eastern
WASHINGTON (AP) South Korean scientists have created the world's first human embryonic stem cells that are customized to injured or sick patients, a major step in the quest to grow patients' own replacement tissue to treat diseases.

These same scientists last year became the first to clone a human embryo, sparking international clamor. But those cloned stem cells ?- the building blocks that give rise to every tissue in the body were a genetic match to a healthy woman, not a sick person. And it wasn't easy: It took 242 donated human eggs to grow just one batch.

Now the Seoul scientists have cloned patient-specific stem cells, important if doctors are to develop cell-based therapies that won't be rejected by the body's immune system. The technique worked with males and females, as young as 2 and as old as 56 ?- all suffering either spinal cord injuries, diabetes or a genetic immune disease, the researchers report in Friday's edition of the journal Science.

And the Korean lab found faster and safer ways to cull stem cells, using far fewer donated eggs ?- about 20 per try. They also eliminated use of mouse "feeder cells" that have been used to nourish most human stem-cell lines, thus easing concerns about contamination.

Any therapy is still years away from being tested in people.

"Therapeutic cloning has tremendous, tremendous healing potential, but we have to open so many doors before human trials," lead researcher Hwang Woo-suk of Seoul National University said in a telephone interview. "Our work reveals the possibility that this technology could be applied in the patient himself in the future."

Stem-cell specialists called the research remarkable.

"This is a very important advance," said Dr. Janet Rowley of the University of Chicago, a genetics specialist who helped co-author recent ethics guidelines on stem-cell research from the Institute of Medicine. "It's surprising to me the amount of progress they've made in basically a year's time."

"This paper will be of major impact," said stem-cell researcher Dr. Rudolph Jaenisch of the Whitehead Institute for Biomedical Research in Cambridge, Mass. "The argument that it will not work in humans will not be tenable after this."

The work marks "a gigantic advance" for another reason, said neuroscientist Fred Gage of the Salk Institute for Biological Studies in San Diego. By cloning stem cells from sick patients, scientists can watch, in a test tube, the very earliest origins of diseases like Alzheimer's, insight that could point to other ways to prevent and treat illness, explained Gage, who plans to do some of that work.

The Korean research "will be a tremendous boon to the investigation of the nature and biology of human disease," he said.

It's also sure to revive international controversy over whether to ban all forms of human cloning, as the Bush administration wants ?- or to allow cloning for medical research, so-called therapeutic cloning that South Korea has committed by law to pursue.

Culling stem cells destroys the days-old embryo harboring them, regardless of whether that embryo was cloned or left over in a fertility clinic. Because opponents argue that is the same as destroying life, President Bush has banned federally funded research on all but a handful of old embryonic stem-cell lines ?- and the South Korean work spotlights the frustration many U.S. scientists felt at being left behind.

"It's just going to highlight the tragedy of our current situation in America where there are technologies that are promising that are not being pursued by talented American scientists because of ideologic constraints," Rowley said.

The Seoul researchers collected eggs donated by 18 unpaid volunteers and removed the gene-containing nucleus from them. They inserted into those eggs DNA from skin cells of 11 people who had spinal cord injuries, Type 1 diabetes or a congenital immune disease.

Chemicals jump-started cellular division, and 31 blastocysts ?- early-stage embryos ?- successfully grew. From those, the scientists were able to harvest 11 colonies, or "lines," of stem cells, each one a genetic match to the patient who had donated a skin snippet.

The scientists were careful to explain to the research participants that getting medicine made from their stem cells is a long shot. They don't yet know how to control which types of tissues ?- brain cells, bones, muscles, etc. ?- the stem cells form, something the Korean lab is studying next.

"I didn't think they would be at this stage for decades, let alone within a year," said Dr. Gerald Schatten of the University of Pittsburgh, who acted as an adviser to the Korean lab in analyzing its data for U.S. publication. "All of us in the biomedical communities owe our colleagues in Korea a tremendous debt of gratitude."

The work raises ethical concerns, cautioned Stanford University bioethicists David Magnus and Mildred Cho. Scientists must ensure that women understand they get no benefit and can be put at some risk when they agree to donate eggs for medical research ?- and that patients who volunteer also understand that it's unlikely they'll benefit from any stem cells they help to clone because so many years of research are yet required, they wrote.


(© 2005 The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. )
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JamesMorrison
 
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Reply Mon 23 May, 2005 03:05 pm
In reference to Gelisgesti's posted article:

As I have stated before, either the U.S. gets in this game or others will and then hold the technology and subsequent patents. As Health consumers we can pay now by investing in the future or pay much more at a later date to other countries for the use of their technologies. Since the U.S.'s major economic edge is in technological innovation and less, nowadays, in manufacturing, the later course is not a wise one.

However, there are some bright lights that continue to shine through the medieval efforts of the religious right--these only further encouraged by politicians' short sighted attempts to pander to this block of voters for the sake of political expediency. Some states, such as California and New Jersey, have set aside funds for research in this area. Additionally, it is interesting, if not just anecdotal, to see people, such as the Reagans, come out in favor of this research once their life experience provides a view through a somewhat different lense.

I have every belief that the tide will turn on this issue. Sooner or later government sponsored research will allow more of the U.S.'s best minds to join the effort. The question lies in who will lead and develop this technology and who will have to go hat in hand and beg to pay for its benefits when it comes of age. The irrational indictment of those researchers as killers is the same as that which places such monikers upon researchers who use animals to advance medical science. It touches the hearts of the uninformed, caring, and squeamish, but seems to deny the obvious benefits afforded to all humans.

Respectfully,

JM
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Gelisgesti
 
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Reply Mon 23 May, 2005 05:41 pm
Thank you James for adding your voice.
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Gelisgesti
 
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Reply Fri 27 May, 2005 06:14 am
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The Stem-Cell Also-Ran: America
The Bush Administration's restrictions on U.S. research will inflict major pain down the road as other countries keep advancing


It's a great time to be a stem-cell researcher -- unless you're working in most U.S. laboratories. In quick succession, foreign labs have announced a series of major breakthroughs, developments that move scientists a step closer to cures for a range of illnesses. On May 20, British researchers revealed that they had cloned a human embryo. The same day, a Korean team announced success in creating stem cells from embryos cloned from people with diseases. Such cells could then theoretically be used as treatments for those people. And earlier this year, Japanese researchers reported that they had used stem cells to cure Parkinson's-like disease in monkeys.
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These overseas triumphs are a reminder that restrictions on federal funding for stem-cell research in the U.S., as well as many state and federal threats to ban much of the research, are hindering the pace of research in America. As part of an ongoing lobbying effort, 37 university presidents and chancellors sent Congress a letter on May 23, arguing that progress in foreign labs is "an indication that U.S. scientists are being hobbled in their pursuit of cures and therapies using this promising research."

A day later, the House of Representatives passed a bill that would relax the limits on research. But with President George W. Bush threatening to veto the bill if it clears Congress, it looks like U.S. researchers will have to resign themselves to "playing catch-up," says Charles Jennings, executive director of the Harvard Stem Cell Institute, which has raised $30 million in private funding.

CONSTANT THREAT. One advantage foreign scientists have is higher levels of government funding. Korea alone is estimated to be spending more than $100 million a year on embryonic stem-cell work, compared to a paltry $24 million last year from the National Institutes of Health. In addition, several countries, such as Korea and Britain, explicitly allow the creation of human embryos as a source of stem cells. In the U.S., there's a constant threat that such an approach could be banned.

As a result, researchers fear the U.S. is at a serious competitive disadvantage. The effects won't be seen immediately. It will take years for researchers to learn how to transform stem cells into new heart muscle, neurons, pancreatic cells, or other key tissues consistently enough to meet Food & Drug Administration requirements for the safety of new treatments.

But the research will have more shorter-term applications, such as creating cells that the pharmaceutical industry can use to test new drugs. And already, researchers are staking claims to valuable intellectual property. By falling behind, experts say, the U.S. could lose out on the eventual commercial applications to companies in Korea, Singapore, India, and other countries that are rushing ahead with the science.

"MODEL-T" CELLS. That would be a stunning reversal, since the field was pioneered in the U.S. American researchers were the first to create long-lived cultures of stem cells, called "stem-cell lines" in 1998, and the scientific community immediately saw vast potential. Stem cells are undifferentiated progenitors -- able to become many different parts of the body. Researchers believe, for example, it should be possible to transform stem cells into the insulin-producing cells that are lost in diabetes, or the dopamine-making neurons lost in Parkinson's Disease, thus curing those illnesses.

But in August, 2001, Bush, citing an aversion to destroying human embryos in the process of extracting stem cells, restricted federally funded research to only existing stem-cells lines. That had a chilling effect on research in the U.S. Those cell lines created before August, 2001-- of which only 22 are useful -- are "the model-T versions," explains Dr. Robert Goldstein, chief scientific officer at the Juvenile Diabetes Research Foundation, which now gives two-thirds of its grant money for embryonic stem cell research to foreign scientists.

The bill passed by the House would allow scientists to create more cell lines from thousands of embryos now slated for destruction at in vitro fertilization clinics. While that could bring several hundred more stem-cell lines into play, the bill "is like getting a foot in the door and trying to open it a little, when other countries are building huge gates," says cloning expert Jose Cibelli, professor of animal biotechnology at Michigan State University.

TALENT DRIVE. And Bush vows to veto the bill anyway. "I made it very clear to the Congress that the use of federal money, taxpayers' money, to promote science which destroys life in order to save life is -- I'm against that," Bush reminded reporters just last week.

The outlook isn't totally bleak. The federal government is spending several hundred million dollars on work with stem cells in mice and with adult stem cells. And some states and private funders are stepping into the void left by the federal government on human embryonic stem cells. Last November, California voted to spend $3 billion over 10 years. The Harvard Stem Cell Institute has raised $30 million from foundations and private donors, and is creating its own stem-cell lines. The Starr Foundation is giving $50 million to three New York City research centers over three years for stem-cell work.

The support is enabling U.S. scientists to continue to make significant strides. At Johns Hopkins stem-cell pioneer John Gearhart is successfully creating heart cells that could be used to treat heart disease. "You cannot underestimate the talent present in this country," says Gearhart. "This is the group that has led the world."

These efforts will keep the U.S. in the game -- but not in the unchallenged lead. "We're really in the Dark Ages," charges Cibelli. "We're failing at the core -- at providing the federal money that would lead to new biotechnology and new companies able to take this to patients." Unless the Administration changes its stance, many breakthroughs will continue to come from outside the U.S.
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Wolf ODonnell
 
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Reply Fri 27 May, 2005 06:48 am
Re: Life
skinywhtboy wrote:
I think that it all boils down to when a fetus is considered "life". Or what you perceive as "life". Is it right when the egg and sperm connect? Is it 3 months of development? Is it right at birth? If so then women everywhere could be artificially inseminating themsleves and selling their fetusus for money. Quite scary but quite possible.


Technically, they're all alive. The sperm, the eggs, the embryo. Every day, the male testes generate spermatazoa, which are killed off if not used. Even the process of insemination results in the death of millions of sperm cells.

Hence the notion that every sperm is precious is false. If they were, why would the biological be system be set up such that so many die?

What this debate, however, all boils down to is what is defined as human.

Is a sperm cell human? Is an egg human?

Is an embryo human, despite the fact that its technically missing a few things that a normal human being would have?
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