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The anti-gay marriage movement IS homophobic

 
 
blatham
 
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Reply Sun 10 Jul, 2005 08:19 am
Drat...a couple of my favorite people here and I have no time to join in today...stay right where you are.
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spendius
 
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Reply Sun 10 Jul, 2005 08:57 am
Hey buster-you might be a high ranking officer over there but you are sod all here.I will stay where I want to be not where you say.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Sun 10 Jul, 2005 09:21 am
Actually, Mr. Mountie just likes to play dress up. He has both an itchy, Mennonite hair shirt under that uniform, and silk lingerie. However, he is not now nor ever has been a member of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police. The only folks who listen to him as though to authority are the house plants on the balcony.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 10 Jul, 2005 09:32 am
Setanta wrote:
The only folks who listen to him as though to authority are the house plants on the balcony.


Which I doubt, since in such a case, floramaniaists would be on 24/24 demonstartion in front of his house, the criminals amongst them perhaps even trying to feed him to carnivorous plants!
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spendius
 
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Reply Sun 10 Jul, 2005 09:32 am
Didn't that man used to be the coconut shy olympic gold medallist?
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blatham
 
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Reply Mon 11 Jul, 2005 06:39 am
Just spent a lovely day playing in the breakers at Long Beach, NY. Odd cultural discrepancies abound for a west coast-bred, California Dreaming type such as me, eg., beach muscle-guys but with black hair and jewish accent. It takes you by surprise.
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spendius
 
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Reply Mon 11 Jul, 2005 07:01 am
A man of your maturity and experience ought to have arrived at the position of being surprised by nothing.

But muscle and black hair and accents!!Ye gods.
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blatham
 
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Reply Mon 11 Jul, 2005 08:09 am
And one is set to imagining the odd possibilities of east coast summer resort bands doing covers of the Beach Boys tunes... "Help me Rhoda, please" and "Mensch, mensch, mensch - mensch vibrations"
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Setanta
 
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Reply Mon 11 Jul, 2005 08:22 am
For a truly hilarious disconnect, imagine "beach music." This is the term that young Southerners once coined for R & B music, which they enjoyed, but which was played by--gasp ! ! !--black folks. So they called it beach music, and pretended they hadn't noticed who was playing it.
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Wolf ODonnell
 
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Reply Mon 11 Jul, 2005 10:37 am
Foxfyre wrote:
My point all along has been that children benefit from having a mother AND a father in the home; otherwise they do not benefit from day in and day out parenting from each gender and the genders do, most often, parent differently providing a different kind of emotional undergirding to the developing child. Like the author of the above piece, I don't have time to hunt up a lot of statistics to support this though I have done so elsewhere in other places.


But what is it about having a mother and a father in the home that is so beneficial?

Is it because one is male and one is female?

Or is it more of the fact that they both have important roles in shaping the psychological and emotional development of the child? Conversely, if the mother acted like the father and the father acted like the mother, surely the children would still get the same "emotional undergirding"?

To deny otherwise would be sexist, stating that a woman cannot do a man's job in this world and that a man cannot do a woman's job. Obviously, a man cannot breastfeed, but apart from that what can't he do if he puts his mind to it?

Obviously, therefore if a homosexual couple were to adopt the roles of mother and father, that would result in a psychologically healthy child?
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Mon 11 Jul, 2005 10:39 am
Wolf O writes
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But what is it about having a mother and a father in the home that is so beneficial?


Asked and answered in the last several days Wolf. Please refer to previous posts. Also in this same discussion some months ago, I dug up and posted reams of evidence to back that up. I just don't have the time or energy to do it all again.
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spendius
 
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Reply Mon 11 Jul, 2005 10:57 am
That is far too subjective Foxy.You are probably talking about the sort of home you are in.There are plenty of children who get wrecked by their Mum and Dad.

Do you not know Philip Larkin's famous poem?
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Dookiestix
 
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Reply Mon 11 Jul, 2005 11:06 am
Having a loving mother and father at home at all times, or having two companions who not only love each other but care deeply and passionately for their children, are the best a child could have in the stability of the home.
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Mon 11 Jul, 2005 05:04 pm
I was not privileged to have a loving mother and father in the home; at least sane ones. I greatly envied my classmates most of whom did have loving, stable home environments. I vowed to provide that for my children and, with the help of my husband, they tell us we did. I am committed to doing what I can to provide that kind o advantage for as many children as possible.

The fact that all children cannot or do not have that in no way negates the benefit of it.


And I don't think I have been the least bit subjective on that point, Spendius. Smile
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alakritz
 
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Reply Mon 11 Jul, 2005 05:16 pm
I'm confused so maybe someone here can expalin it to me like I am a five year old. It's not okay for gays to marry, but it's perfectly fine for Mormons to marry 20 women, ages 15 and up? And the president thinks homosexuality is immoral? I find this whole thing ridculous and it makes me angry because this country has so many other things to be concerned about other than who someone sleeps with or marries.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Mon 11 Jul, 2005 06:10 pm
Although i could not agree with you more, i feel it only fair to point out that if you get a response, you will be deluged with assertions that homosexuals want special rights, such an attitude devalues marriage and children are better off when raised by a heterosexual couple. Can't say you weren't warned . . .
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Mon 11 Jul, 2005 07:12 pm
alakritz wrote:
I'm confused so maybe someone here can expalin it to me like I am a five year old. It's not okay for gays to marry, but it's perfectly fine for Mormons to marry 20 women, ages 15 and up? And the president thinks homosexuality is immoral? I find this whole thing ridculous and it makes me angry because this country has so many other things to be concerned about other than who someone sleeps with or marries.


It's not "perfectly fine for Mormons to marry 20 women, ages 15 and up."

Does that help?
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Mon 11 Jul, 2005 07:14 pm
McGentrix wrote:
alakritz wrote:
I'm confused so maybe someone here can expalin it to me like I am a five year old. It's not okay for gays to marry, but it's perfectly fine for Mormons to marry 20 women, ages 15 and up? And the president thinks homosexuality is immoral? I find this whole thing ridculous and it makes me angry because this country has so many other things to be concerned about other than who someone sleeps with or marries.


It's not "perfectly fine for Mormons to marry 20 women, ages 15 and up."

Does that help?

Yeah, it's uaually just 3 or 4 unless they get caught for welfare fraud or sexual exploitation of a minor.
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Baldimo
 
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Reply Mon 11 Jul, 2005 07:38 pm
dyslexia wrote:
McGentrix wrote:
alakritz wrote:
I'm confused so maybe someone here can expalin it to me like I am a five year old. It's not okay for gays to marry, but it's perfectly fine for Mormons to marry 20 women, ages 15 and up? And the president thinks homosexuality is immoral? I find this whole thing ridculous and it makes me angry because this country has so many other things to be concerned about other than who someone sleeps with or marries.


It's not "perfectly fine for Mormons to marry 20 women, ages 15 and up."

Does that help?

Yeah, it's uaually just 3 or 4 unless they get caught for welfare fraud or sexual exploitation of a minor.


It isn't legal for them to marry more then one person. The main stream morman religion doesn't recongize more then one marriage and only those on the extreme edge of the religion do it any more.
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LionTamerX
 
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Reply Mon 11 Jul, 2005 07:40 pm
Isn't mainstream Mormon an oxymoron ?
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