The anti-gay marriage movement IS homophobic

I'd also like to add:

If it weren't for gay men, our weddings wouldn't be nearly as fabulous. And any bridezilla against gay marriage needs to shut the **** up: your linens wouldn't match the tones of your reception venue, the flower arrangements would be tacky, and the crab cakes would be served lukewarm.

All humor aside though, it's tragic. An industry teeming with gay men with, no doubt, their dream marriage scenario planned out to the last detail, but no hope for realizing it unless they move northeast.

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@Cycloptichorn,

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What a ******* joke you are, John.

Is this a recent discovery?

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@JTT,

JTT wrote:

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What a ******* joke you are, John.

Is this a recent discovery?

Nope.

Cycloptichorn

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@Gargamel,

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I just listened to a very depressing podcast on the Brian Lehrer Show.
http://www.wnyc.org/shows/bl/episodes/2009/12/03/segments/145442?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+wnyc_bl+(WNYC's+Brian+Lehrer+Show)

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Gay marriage was voted down by the New York State Senate yesterday. Julie Bolcer, New York correspondent for The Advocate, breaks down the vote and the gay marriage initiative still pending in the New Jersey legislature. Plus, New York State Senators Diane Savino (D-23) and Tom Duane (D-29) offer their take on the NY Senate vote.

I found out that my state senator, George Onorato, (an alleged Democrat), just voted against the New York State Marriage Equality bill.

So I felt compelled to write to him a stinging letter of reprimand for his politically bigoted/populist vote.

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Dear Senator George Onorato,
I feel compelled to write to you my utter disappointment in your seemingly dogmatic and politically populist vote against the bill to legalize gay marriage.

The right of marriage is a human rights issue. The vote against legalized gay marriage is a vote to keep gays and lesbians as second class citizens.

Your next election is next in 2010. Unless something changes in the near future, I am looking into alternative candidates to succeed your seat. I may even vote for a socially liberal Republican candidate (something I have never done in my voting career).

Thank you for your time and hopefully reconsideration of this very important social issue.

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@tsarstepan,

Bigots suck.

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@dlowan,

Yes they do! Sad

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@tsarstepan,

Not that sucking is ALWAYS bad.

Ask any baby.

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http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-december-3-2009/gaywatch---meredith-baxter---new-york-state-senate

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December 3, 2009 - Views: 7,277
Gaywatch - Meredith Baxter & New York State Senate
The New York State Senate votes down a same-sex marriage bill, but on the other hand, Meredith Baxter comes out.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGYw5d51Lgo&NR=1

Let's salute the 8 hypocritical and pathetic individuals who bigoted their way into history by voting no on the marriage equality bill here in New York:
Senator Monserrate
Senator George Onorato
Senator Joe Addabbo, JR
Senator Carl Kruger
Senator William Stachowski
Senator Charles Fuschillo, Jr.
Senator Shirley Huntley
Senator Ruben Diaz

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@tsarstepan,

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The Brian Lehrer Show / December 04, 2009 / Addabbo's "No" Vote on Marriage Equality
Addabbo's "No" Vote on Marriage Equality
Friday, December 04, 2009

Eight democrats joined all 30 Republican New York State senators in defeating the same-sex marriage bill 24-38. Senator Joseph Addabbo Jr. (D-Queens), explains why he voted no.

http://www.wnyc.org/shows/bl/episodes/2009/12/04/segments/145492

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@tsarstepan,

Prick.

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Once again, when someone doesn't vote the way the left thinks they should they are labeled a "prick" or a "bigot" or whatever else makes y'all feel superior. Seems to me he voted as he did because he decided that voting that way would make the fewest enemies and better his odds of re-election since he believed the people in his district were against the bill. Sounds like a standup guy to me in that he went against his party line and voted how he believed the majority of his district wanted him to vote. Had he been a republican and went against his party and voted for the bill because the people in his district were for it, then you would all be praising him for his principles. Funny how that works, huh?

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@CoastalRat,

CoastalRat wrote:

Once again, when someone doesn't vote the way the left thinks they should they are labeled a "prick" or a "bigot" or whatever else makes y'all feel superior. Seems to me he voted as he did because he decided that voting that way would make the fewest enemies and better his odds of re-election since he believed the people in his district were against the bill. Sounds like a standup guy to me in that he went against his party line and voted how he believed the majority of his district wanted him to vote. Had he been a republican and went against his party and voted for the bill because the people in his district were for it, then you would all be praising him for his principles. Funny how that works, huh?

Nah, agreeing with your constituency doesn't keep you from being a bigot or a prick; it just lumps them in the same group.

Look, I know it's hard for you guys to be confronted with the fact that your opinions make you bigoted towards your fellow man, but that's the long and short of it and you'd be better served to admit the fact that you are discriminatory towards those you look down upon and fear, instead of somehow pretending that your opinions have some sort of rational basis.

It isn't about 'feeling superior;' the fact that you believe some people are lesser and shouldn't enjoy rights doesn't make me feel superior in any way. It just makes me sad.

Cycloptichorn

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@Cycloptichorn,

well said

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@djjd62,

It's a shame Cycloptichorn's well thought out and reasonable reply will fall on deaf ears of the self deluded and bigoted.

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@Cycloptichorn,

Whatever you say Cy. I will happily accept the fact that you believe me to be a prick and a bigot. I can live with that.

Of course, as I've stated before when I've made the mistake of involving myself in this issue, all the name calling and such is not going to help change the minds of people to your side of the issue. (I do believe your side of this issue will eventually win out, and once it does, that is fine by me. I'll live with it.) Compromise on this issue has long been possible and personally is what I would like to see happen. But as long as the gay community insists on their way or no way, then we will continue to have winners and losers each time and in each state that this is voted on. In this instance, gay marriage advocates lost. In DC they recently won. And so it goes.

My problem has always been the "our belief or you're a homophobic biggoted prick" attitude to which you (not necessarily you personally) adhere.

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@CoastalRat,

well said

i don't get the opposition to marriage from the folks who say it will destroy some unicorn mythical idea that marriage is is gonna be destroyed

but i also don't get why the gays want to have anything to do with it, try something new that offers the same benefits, don't call it marriage, hell if they can make an alternative work that has nothing to do with the shambles that traditional marriage has become, maybe straights will come over to their side and check out their alternative

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@CoastalRat,

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My problem has always been the "our belief or you're a homophobic biggoted prick" attitude to which you (not necessarily you personally) adhere.

I'm sure that is problematic for you, because nobody wants to be confronted about their opinions and beliefs. You would rather that we all just said 'well, different opinions are out there, and that's okay.'

But it's not okay, because your opinion isn't harmless. It's harmful to a large percentage of our population and causes a lot of pain for no good reason. To deny the truth of this is to deny your personal responsibility as a citizen to ensure Equality for All.

It has long been my experience that some - and yes, they are primarily Republicans by nature, though not exclusively - seek to deny Equality for All, because they don't give a **** about other people. I think this is the exact opposite of the reason this country was created and the definition of UnAmerican.

You say that 'our side will eventually win out,' and it will; you're right about that. But you don't seem to realize that one of the reasons our side is winning and will continue to win, is the fact that we are no longer afraid to aggressively confront those who would continue to see their fellow citizens treated as second-class people, to be shunned and feared by 'god-fearing' folks. It is our willingness to continue to push the issue which moves the issue forward. Your attitude, sort of a 'why can't you guys just shut up and wait for change to happen,' is the way to keep anything from happening, ever.

I don't know if you have gay friends or not, but I do, and ones who want to be married and who have had to travel to certain states to do so. Their marriage is not considered valid in their own state, in their own house. It pains them greatly every day that this is so. Nothing about your response or opinion shows that you understand the truth of this, or care.

Cyclotpichorn

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@djjd62,

djjd62 wrote:

well said

i don't get the opposition to marriage from the folks who say it will destroy some unicorn mythical idea that marriage is is gonna be destroyed

but i also don't get why the gays want to have anything to do with it, try something new that offers the same benefits, don't call it marriage, hell if they can make an alternative work that has nothing to do with the shambles that traditional marriage has become, maybe straights will come over to their side and check out their alternative

Well, I agree with you; if they had ALL the same rights, it doesn't matter what it's called. The problem is that the folks who are against gays in general will fight tooth and nail to keep them from enjoying all the same rights; and the proof is that they have done exactly this at every opportunity presented.

Cycloptichorn

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