@Albuquerque,
Quote:...in any case we can fluidly debate it right here right now if you are willing and have the patience to disentangle such a hard topic.
Let’s thus start with definitions. Give me yours and start with the attributes of God. We shall proceed from there.
Ah ****, do I have to watch all those videos first? Sorry, I can never pass up a one liner. It’s a flaw.
Yes, we can proceed, I thought we already had.
But to be clear, the question is, is there or isn’t there, is it not? Frank definitely had at least that right.
My definition or premise is, that from a truly objective perspective, regardless of time period or from a young child's to a well educated scientist's, it is obvious that we are living in an intelligently designed environment. And not to dodge the point, the only candidate for that creator would be God. As far as attributes, the only thing one could initially say is 'able to create every animate thing we see, including us'. It is the inspiration behind the question 'Where did I come from mommy?'. And the answer is usually where the lies begin.
And since you have already posited 'Panspermia', I would counter that with 'that is merely kicking the can down the road.' It's begging the question of infinite regress, which let’s be honest, neither of us can begin to address that, so let us move on.
Eagerly awaiting your definition or premise.
