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STEPHEN HAWKING: WE HAVE 100 YEARS TO LEAVE EARTH

 
 
maxdancona
 
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Reply Sat 6 May, 2017 06:20 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Quote:
Free market economies have done more to raise people from poverty than any other system.


I don't think that this statement means anything. You are making what appears to be a statement of fact, but there is no way to back it up since you haven't provided any way to measure what a "free market economy" is. You gave me Hong Kong (I doubt if Hong Kong is anywhere near the top of "raising people from poverty (however that is measured)). Are we still including pre-colonial India and ancient Egypt?


If you define your term in a way that is measurable, then we can check to see if it is factually true. If not, than this is just a dogmatic slogan.
Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Sat 6 May, 2017 06:26 pm
@maxdancona,
You're being stubborn
maxdancona
 
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Reply Sat 6 May, 2017 06:37 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
I am disagreeing with you. And I explained why I disagree with you in as clear a way as possible.

If you give me a way to test your assertion with evidence, then you have the opportunity to change my mind. But you need evidence (which means a way to define the terms and test it against a number of economies). I don't think that is being stubborn.
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ekename
 
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Reply Sat 6 May, 2017 07:27 pm
OK first the magnetosphere on Mars then create more atmosphere , no need for designer touch. And the ground rules are that we have to leave Earth so no more wasted tears.
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Olivier5
 
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Reply Sun 7 May, 2017 03:17 am
We should mind earth's atmosphere before we try and fix other planets'....
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Leadfoot
 
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Reply Sun 7 May, 2017 05:07 am
I'd volunteer for the first ship out.
But it would have nothing to do with climate change, capitalism/communism or the idiotic idea that we have only 100 years to do it.
Fil Albuquerque
 
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Reply Sun 7 May, 2017 06:11 am
@Leadfoot,
Well, what's your reason Hitchcock? "The Expanse" has gotten to ya?
Leadfoot
 
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Reply Sun 7 May, 2017 02:39 pm
@Fil Albuquerque,
Just don't feel at home on this planet
Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Sun 7 May, 2017 02:44 pm
@Leadfoot,
Well, you sure as hell won't feel "at home" on Mars. Smile
roger
 
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Reply Sun 7 May, 2017 02:56 pm
@Leadfoot,
Have you considered nose/ear reduction surgery?
Builder
 
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Reply Sun 7 May, 2017 07:18 pm
I recall a theory about how the mind contracts a little, and mental growth is stultified, when space exploration is halted.
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Leadfoot
 
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Reply Mon 8 May, 2017 05:24 am
@Finn dAbuzz,
Quote:
Well, you sure as hell won't feel "at home" on Mars.

Mars ain't no kind of place to raise your kids,
But I'm not plan'n to
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Leadfoot
 
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Reply Mon 8 May, 2017 05:26 am
@roger,
Quote:
Have you considered nose/ear reduction surgery?

I only wish cosmetics were the problem...
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Mon 8 May, 2017 07:25 am
Imagine strolling across this on a Sunday afternoon.
https://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/jpeg/PIA11241.jpg
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Fil Albuquerque
 
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Reply Mon 8 May, 2017 08:03 am
@Leadfoot,
...not to be antagonistic but isn't that comment extremely pretentious to make?
I think we would have to test just how you would feel at home in Mars and then get back to asking you...
...if you are making the point you dislike humanity at large then your shooting your own foot. It means you are not willing to engage...perhaps to old!
Leadfoot
 
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Reply Mon 8 May, 2017 01:33 pm
@Fil Albuquerque,
Quote:
...perhaps to old!

Nay, too young. So many years left. Damn genetics, mom 94 and still driving...
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Setanta
 
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Reply Sat 20 May, 2017 10:05 pm
This may interest people. This is NASA's program for getting astronauts into Martian orbit by 2030:

Journey to Mars

This article from National Geographic gives a summary of past plans for going to our neighbor, and contemporary plans (perhaps the last part about five volunteers for a one-way trip is what EB referred to in an earlier post):

SpaceX Wants to Go to Mars. Here’s Why Humans Aren’t There Yet.

I still think everyone involved so far, and particularly Musk, have grossly unrealistic expectations. More than that, sending a crew off there with high hopes only to kill them because of a total unpreparedness for conditions there would likely set the effort to colonize the planet back by decades, or even generations.
Setanta
 
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Reply Sat 20 May, 2017 10:10 pm
This article from Space-dot-com tells about the Mars One initiative:

These People Want to Go to Mars (and Never Come Back)

(WARNING: Annoying pop-up and attempt to put a notification program on your desktop.)
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sat 20 May, 2017 10:22 pm
@Setanta,
Just idle speculation on my part, but I would send equipment and supplies by the ton, at least a couple dozen times before landing humans there.
 

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