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The NEXT coming Oz election thread!

 
 
dlowan
 
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Reply Thu 10 Mar, 2005 03:13 pm
Ay Sontespli wrote:
I am currently living in Australia and have applied for Permanent Residency.
It drives me crazy that I have heaps of skills but am unable to work!
So I fill my time doing heaps of volunteer work instead.
Wouldn't Australia benefit from my working and contributing tax $$?


I hope you are soon a paid up member of the rat race!
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Ay Sontespli
 
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Reply Thu 10 Mar, 2005 03:32 pm
dlowan,
likely my australian husband will wanna jump ship and go back to canada before i ever earn a penny on australian soil!
he is a puter programmer and has had enough of pecking away at a k/b; now he wants to go back to canada to be a park ranger or something like that!
we both love the outdoors and I am all for working at some resort in the middle of no where
ah well, i am meeting heaps of wonderful ppl through all my volunteer work so i reckon that is all that really matters Smile
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msolga
 
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Reply Fri 11 Mar, 2005 12:50 am
dlowan wrote:
Hmmmm - I am sad that we all appear to have bought the rubric that tax = bad. ...


No, we all haven't, Deb!

Of course we need a healthy budget (via taxation) for all varieties of vital public services. (Not that that's where enough of our tax dollars go!) A real, concern at the moment, is for people like you (& me!) who are PAYE (pay as you earn) tax payers who are getting well & truly slugged compared to the (wealthy) folk who use all sorts of lurks & perks (legal & illegal) to avoid paying their fair share of tax. THEY are the reason you & I have to pay such high tax.
And it bothers me enormously that we are ALL paying the same rate of GST (goods & services tax) on so many of our purchases. Is it fair that say, an unemployed person or a single mother, is paying the same amount of GST as say, a BHP executive or Kerry Packer for the similar items? I think it's time the government took a good hard look at how tax (direct & indirect) effects the middle to lower folks' incomes. But of course, that's not what the redistribution of wealth under Howard was all about. Rolling Eyes
And it's also a bonus if the government spends the tax it collects responsibly! ... & not on bogus election campaign "incentives, subsidizing "private" businesses, like health insurance & Hungry Jacks & co, people buying 2nd investment properties, etc, etc .....
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dlowan
 
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Reply Fri 11 Mar, 2005 01:17 am
Lol - I know msolga - and said as much!

Ay - I loved Canada - I would enjoy to live and work there for a while.
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msolga
 
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Reply Fri 11 Mar, 2005 01:29 am
Ay Sontespli

Oh, do stay if you can! An absolute bonus to the country, you are! Very Happy
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msolga
 
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Reply Fri 11 Mar, 2005 01:32 am
dlowan wrote:
Lol - I know msolga - and said as much!


I thought you said you were happy to pay "high tax", Deb!
I'm happy to pay the equitable variety! :wink:
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msolga
 
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Reply Fri 11 Mar, 2005 02:01 am
http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2005/03/10/1103moir_gallery__550x329,0.jpg

Rolling Eyes Evil or Very Mad Confused
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msolga
 
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Reply Fri 11 Mar, 2005 02:04 am
http://network.news.com.au/image/0,10114,425358,00.jpg
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msolga
 
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Reply Fri 11 Mar, 2005 02:19 am
PM, Treasurer slate 'errors' in OECD report
David Uren, Economics correspondent
March 11, 2005/the AUSTRALIAN


JOHN Howard and Peter Costello have attacked one of the world's most reputable economic think-tanks over a report that revealed Australians faced a rising tax burden over the past eight years, at a time when most advanced nations had lowered taxes.

The Prime Minister said yesterday that the OECD report was wrong. "The OECD report contains some very serious errors," he told parliament.

However, Labor treasury spokesman Wayne Swan said the flaw, which had been found by the Treasurer, did not relate to the tax burden on individuals, which had increased in line with the OECD findings.

"The OECD's report shows in black and white the punishing disincentives faced by families," Mr Swan said.

The OECD surveyed eight typical taxpayer types in 30 countries and measured the burden of taxation, both before and after the payment of benefits. It also looked at the cost of hiring workers.

The report found that there was a global trend towards the reduction of tax for all family types but that in Australia and Iceland tax burdens had increased.

Mr Costello said the OECD report was wrong because it had only included state payroll tax from 2002 and, as a result, comparisons going back to 1996 were misleading.

Treasury secretary Ken Henry released a press statement yesterday saying the OECD had been asked to amend this a year ago, but had failed to do so.

"I have now written to the secretary-general of the OECD asking him to ensure that comparable data for Australia are used in future editions of this report," Mr Henry said.

However, Mr Swan pointed out that the payroll tax issue was relevant only to comparisons of the cost of employing people, and had no bearing upon the average burden of income tax.

"Using the tables (which exclude the impact of the payroll tax changes) it is clear the tax burden has still increased for a number of families," he said.

Mr Swan also refuted Mr Costello's claim that the OECD report did not include the last budget's tax cuts, pointing out that the latest changes were included.

A spokesman for Mr Costello said there were further problems with the OECD figures, which had not included the Medicare levy before 2000.

The spokesman said the replacement of the sole parent rebate with the family tax benefit Part B after 1999 also made the OECD tables misleading.

Mr Costello said the OECD figures showed Australia imposed the eighth-lowest tax burden out of the 30 countries in the survey.

Three of those with lower tax burdens were countries with which Australia would not normally compare itself - Mexico, Turkey and South Korea.

* The charts in yesterday's story were based on OECD tables, which included the addition of payroll tax from 2002 and were misleading as a result. The Australian stands by the story that income tax rates have increased in Australia while they have fallen in other comparable countries.

~

Interesting how this government accepts & rejects aspects of different OECD reports by what suits the Liberals' own agenda.
When there are pro-business/anti-workers' rights suggestions, then that's just fine! This latest report, however, is totally unacceptable. The OECD got it wrong! Rolling Eyes
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goodfielder
 
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Reply Fri 11 Mar, 2005 03:06 am
Unfortunately most of this is sliding past much of the electorate - by the way how are the Aussies doing against New Zealand, I heard it was going south a bit.

Sorry, I rarely use sarcasm but sometimes............
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msolga
 
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Reply Fri 11 Mar, 2005 03:09 am
goodfielder


Are you talking about sport? Confused No idea!
Nothing sarcastic in what you said from what I can see .... Confused
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Ay Sontespli
 
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Reply Fri 11 Mar, 2005 03:22 am
you guys make me smile Smile
thanks
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goodfielder
 
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Reply Fri 11 Mar, 2005 03:22 am
To my eternal shame msolga I was indicating that most of us will glance at the front page, our eyes will slide over words such as "current account deficit" and we'll immediately flick to the back page to see what Ricky is going to do in New Zealand. If I knew a damn thing about cricket I'd probably advise Ricky to bring in Brett Lee to bang a few Kiwi helmets (I could be channelling Roy and HG here, I need to take care).

Damnit there I go again

Sad
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msolga
 
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Reply Fri 11 Mar, 2005 04:10 am
Ay Sontespli wrote:
you guys make me smile Smile
thanks


And you make me smile! Very Happy I hope you convince your partner to stay. I think you'd like life here. And you deserve a job ... NOW!
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msolga
 
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Reply Fri 11 Mar, 2005 04:16 am
goodfielder wrote:
To my eternal shame msolga I was indicating that most of us will glance at the front page, our eyes will slide over words such as "current account deficit" and we'll immediately flick to the back page to see what Ricky is going to do in New Zealand. If I knew a damn thing about cricket I'd probably advise Ricky to bring in Brett Lee to bang a few Kiwi helmets (I could be channelling Roy and HG here, I need to take care).

Damnit there I go again

Sad


Ah, rave on as you wish, goodfielder! Absolutely nothing to be eternally shamed about! I know nothing about cricket, either! Welcome, by the way, .... feel free to comment on whatever aspect of Oz politics interests you. Very Happy
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Ay Sontespli
 
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Reply Fri 11 Mar, 2005 06:59 am
msolga,
I am trying to talk hubby into finding a park ranger type job in tassie. Heard about the Overland track today and I am itching to give it a go!
I reckon we would be suited to working in a ummmm a resort where hubby could be an outdoorsy guy/maintenance and I could bake/cook to my heart's content Smile
I did my first shift as a Patient Buddy at Mater Children's hospital today and I absolutely loved it!!!
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msolga
 
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Reply Fri 11 Mar, 2005 07:27 am
Ay Sontespli


I think we are going to have to conduct a campaign to convince your husband to stay! Very Happy Yep, Tassie sounds right! If he wants some serious wilderness he'll love it! But you don't sound as though you need much convincing at all! You sound right in your element already! Very Happy
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msolga
 
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Reply Sat 12 Mar, 2005 06:36 am
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,1658,425756,00.jpg
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msolga
 
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Reply Sat 12 Mar, 2005 06:40 am
http://network.news.com.au/image/0,10114,425798,00.jpg
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goodfielder
 
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Reply Sun 13 Mar, 2005 04:09 am
Could it be? Might it be? Are we in Oz about to wake from our stupor concerning the real competence of our federal government and our Prime Minister? Has this new South Sea Bubble finally burst? Will we finally realise that the Emperor and his offsider are both stark bollock naked?
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