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The NEXT coming Oz election thread!

 
 
msolga
 
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Reply Sun 30 Sep, 2007 07:46 am
The 24th of November! That leaves weeks for more of this! Rolling Eyes :

http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2007/09/29/rgid_dogfight_wideweb__470x221,0.jpg

The mongrel election:
http://www.theage.com.au/news/in-depth/the-mongrel-election/2007/09/29/1190486632945.html
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msolga
 
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Reply Sun 30 Sep, 2007 07:54 am
Spefically more of this from the Libs:

http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2007/09/28/svOPEDSEP29_wideweb__470x276,0.jpg


..... Consider the incidents and accusations that have been directed at Rudd, and what his opponents said they suggested about him. Tony Abbott questioned Rudd's Christianity (subtext: fraud). Peter Costello highlighted Rudd's meetings with the convicted criminal and lobbyist Brian Burke (low morals, bad judgement, unethical). There was the revelation of his wife's business underpaying some employees (hypocrite). He's constantly portrayed as a puppet of union bosses (weak, not his own man). There was the story about his drunken interlude at a Manhattan girly bar (fraud). His heart valve transplant (unfit). There was a News Limited tabloid story about plans for him to attend an Anzac service in Vietnam, organised by the Sunrise show, the so-called "false dawn" affair (disrespectful, self-promoter). And there was a dispute over his recollections of being evicted from the family home after his father's death when Rudd was only 11 years old (liar, self-proclaimed victim). ....

http://www.theage.com.au/news/opinion/transparent-tactic/2007/09/28/1190486565814.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1
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msolga
 
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Reply Sun 30 Sep, 2007 08:18 am
Antony Green's election guide. (For any of you who don't visit the ABC's online news site) It's pretty good.
I think Antony's terrific! He's a walking-talking encyclopedia of Oz politics that man! And so driven, so enthusisatic!Laughing :
http://www.abc.com.au/elections/federal/2007/img/guide/antony_green.jpg

http://www.abc.com.au/elections/federal/2007/guide/
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hingehead
 
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Reply Sun 30 Sep, 2007 04:29 pm
Hi Olgs

On the Libs advertising budget. It's worse than you think. They've taken to relaunching programs launched months ago. For example JH 'reannounced' funding for the AFL - and 'relaunched' an employment program Joe Hockey launched months ago.

If Nov 24 is the day that means we can expect government grants for race horses on the first tuesday in November...
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vikorr
 
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Reply Sun 30 Sep, 2007 11:17 pm
This article from The Australian.

Editors are meant to be intelligent people...and this one comes up with nothing but hot air - I'm amazed at just how poorly it's written. Maybe he's starting to swing Labor's way but Murdoch ordered him to try and get Howard elected...it's the only explanation for something as bizarre as this piece that could have been written by a first year journalism student.


http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,22509101-16741,00.html
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Campaign cheques Labor can't cash
TRANSPORT Workers Union official Tony Sheldon tells us millions of dollars that employers paid into a fighting fund are used to protect his members against the evils of the Government's workplace reforms. So that's all right then. Well, no, it's not.

For a start, there is the question of whether the companies that kicked the TWU tin received anything in return, such as a sympathetic hearing from the union during negotiations and disputes, making it a case of cash for quiet. And then there is the issue of whose interests this deal served, workers whose labour may have been used as political pawns by their leaders, or the officials who decided what the money would be spent on. Mr Sheldon's statement on the Nine Network's Sunday program yesterday that the money was spent on campaigns to win "better conditions for working families in our industries" is imprecise, at best. As was his response to questions on whether money from the fund is assisting ALP candidates' campaigns. Mr Sheldon says that if any cash was used to assist the Labor candidate who replaced retired Victorian premier Steve Bracks, he does not know about it. This is not the same as a denial, especially as he also said that he didn't apologise for getting "people elected who support the principles of the union". And the last-ditch defence he presented during last week, that the claims about the fighting fund are mischief-making by a rival union, is plainly pathetic. The issue that matters is whether the allegations are correct, not where they come from.

Rusted on Labor loyalists may wonder what the fuss is about. Certainly Kevin Rudd has not come over all outraged and denounced Mr Sheldon in the way he got stuck into union officials Dean Mighell and Joe McDonald, who are exiled from the Labor Party for the way they have attempted to intimidate employers. Perhaps this is because the Opposition Leader does not believe Mr Sheldon has done anything wrong - there is certainly no suggestion that either he or his officials have stood over employers while they wrote cheques for the TWU fighting fund - or anything illegal with the money. Perhaps it is because Mr Sheldon is a senior figure in the industrial movement and as such, a far more powerful player than the blustering Mr Mighell and the bragging Mr McDonald, who both carry on as if they are about to fight their own private class wars. Perhaps Labor's campaign bean-counters are hoping for more help from the TWU, especially when the union has topped up its war chest with business contributions. Or perhaps Mr Rudd simply assumes that questions about what Mr Sheldon does with the TWU pork barrel will go away if everybody on the Labor side sticks to the script - that it is all about protecting "working families" from the Government's workplace laws.

Maybe these questions will go away. The businesses that contributed to the TWU fighting fund are not likely to complain. And aggrieved rank and file workers cannot hope to compete with the powerful leaders of a rich union who are used to doing what they like. Mr Rudd has done a good job to date in diverting attention away from what his party's links to the unions will mean if Labor wins the election, and it is a fair bet that he will be discouraging interest in Mr Sheldon's inadequate answers. But the TWU fighting fund presents us all with one issue too important to ignore - the grim determination of the Opposition's union allies to destroy workplace deregulation. With private sector membership around 15 per cent, union leaders are desperate to see Labor win the election and reinstate some of their authority over the workforce. Unless this occurs, the ACTU will be permanently reduced to a rump of public sector unions and the few remaining easily organised industries with large, blue-collar workforces. For old-fashioned unionists who genuinely believe that the decline of organised labour leaves low-skilled workers open to exploitation, this is bad enough. For career officials who see their own ambitions being ended if there are fewer and smaller unions to run, anything other than a compliant Labor government after the election will be a disaster. When they talk about protecting "working families", the phrase includes their own. This is all understandable but it does not justify the way unions such as the TWU assume their institutional interests are synonymous with those of their members. If union members support their officials spending money on political campaigns, fair enough. But the primary job of any union is to represent the immediate interests of its members, not to make deals with employers to fund political campaigns. This whole affair renews long-standing questions about the way unions operate in politics, and in whose interest. It also raises three new ones only Mr Rudd can answer. How much has the TWU fighting fund donated to Labor? Given the Labor leader ordered the return of donations from Mr Mighell's union, will he send cheques from Mr Sheldon's fighting fund back? And if not, why not?
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msolga
 
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Reply Mon 1 Oct, 2007 02:45 am
hingehead wrote:
Hi Olgs

On the Libs advertising budget. It's worse than you think. They've taken to relaunching programs launched months ago. For example JH 'reannounced' funding for the AFL - and 'relaunched' an employment program Joe Hockey launched months ago.

If Nov 24 is the day that means we can expect government grants for race horses on the first tuesday in November...


Look like someone has rather lost the plot, wouldn't you say, hinge?

Does he think the Libs' advertising budget is somehow hidden from public knowledge?

So this is what the Libs mean when they claim to be the superior economic managers, hmmmm?
Imagine how many closed public hospital beds could have been made available, how many pensioners lives could be made almost tolerable by rasing their paltry payments a little, the extra teachers that could have been employed in those desperately struggling "trouble spot" schools, if that money had been used responsibly! Etc, etc, etc ...

Instead millions of dollars of our taxes have been diverted to the media & advertising/PR companies! Rolling Eyes
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msolga
 
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Reply Mon 1 Oct, 2007 03:02 am
vikorr wrote:
This article from The Australian.

Editors are meant to be intelligent people...and this one comes up with nothing but hot air - I'm amazed at just how poorly it's written. Maybe he's starting to swing Labor's way but Murdoch ordered him to try and get Howard elected...it's the only explanation for something as bizarre as this piece that could have been written by a first year journalism student.


http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,22509101-16741,00.html
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Campaign cheques Labor can't cash
TRANSPORT Workers Union official Tony Sheldon tells us millions of dollars that employers paid into a fighting fund are used to protect his members against the evils of the Government's workplace reforms. So that's all right then. Well, no, it's not.

For a start, there is the question of whether the companies that kicked the TWU tin received anything in return, such as a sympathetic hearing from the union during negotiations and disputes, making it a case of cash for quiet. And then there is the issue of whose interests this deal served, workers whose labour may have been used as political pawns by their leaders, or the officials who decided what the money would be spent on. Mr Sheldon's statement on the Nine Network's Sunday program yesterday that the money was spent on campaigns to win "better conditions for working families in our industries" is imprecise, at best. As was his response to questions on whether money from the fund is assisting ALP candidates' campaigns. Mr Sheldon says that if any cash was used to assist the Labor candidate who replaced retired Victorian premier Steve Bracks, he does not know about it. This is not the same as a denial, especially as he also said that he didn't apologise for getting "people elected who support the principles of the union". And the last-ditch defence he presented during last week, that the claims about the fighting fund are mischief-making by a rival union, is plainly pathetic. The issue that matters is whether the allegations are correct, not where they come from.

Rusted on Labor loyalists may wonder what the fuss is about. Certainly Kevin Rudd has not come over all outraged and denounced Mr Sheldon in the way he got stuck into union officials Dean Mighell and Joe McDonald, who are exiled from the Labor Party for the way they have attempted to intimidate employers. Perhaps this is because the Opposition Leader does not believe Mr Sheldon has done anything wrong - there is certainly no suggestion that either he or his officials have stood over employers while they wrote cheques for the TWU fighting fund - or anything illegal with the money. Perhaps it is because Mr Sheldon is a senior figure in the industrial movement and as such, a far more powerful player than the blustering Mr Mighell and the bragging Mr McDonald, who both carry on as if they are about to fight their own private class wars. Perhaps Labor's campaign bean-counters are hoping for more help from the TWU, especially when the union has topped up its war chest with business contributions. Or perhaps Mr Rudd simply assumes that questions about what Mr Sheldon does with the TWU pork barrel will go away if everybody on the Labor side sticks to the script - that it is all about protecting "working families" from the Government's workplace laws.

Maybe these questions will go away. The businesses that contributed to the TWU fighting fund are not likely to complain. And aggrieved rank and file workers cannot hope to compete with the powerful leaders of a rich union who are used to doing what they like. Mr Rudd has done a good job to date in diverting attention away from what his party's links to the unions will mean if Labor wins the election, and it is a fair bet that he will be discouraging interest in Mr Sheldon's inadequate answers. But the TWU fighting fund presents us all with one issue too important to ignore - the grim determination of the Opposition's union allies to destroy workplace deregulation. With private sector membership around 15 per cent, union leaders are desperate to see Labor win the election and reinstate some of their authority over the workforce. Unless this occurs, the ACTU will be permanently reduced to a rump of public sector unions and the few remaining easily organised industries with large, blue-collar workforces. For old-fashioned unionists who genuinely believe that the decline of organised labour leaves low-skilled workers open to exploitation, this is bad enough. For career officials who see their own ambitions being ended if there are fewer and smaller unions to run, anything other than a compliant Labor government after the election will be a disaster. When they talk about protecting "working families", the phrase includes their own. This is all understandable but it does not justify the way unions such as the TWU assume their institutional interests are synonymous with those of their members. If union members support their officials spending money on political campaigns, fair enough. But the primary job of any union is to represent the immediate interests of its members, not to make deals with employers to fund political campaigns. This whole affair renews long-standing questions about the way unions operate in politics, and in whose interest. It also raises three new ones only Mr Rudd can answer. How much has the TWU fighting fund donated to Labor? Given the Labor leader ordered the return of donations from Mr Mighell's union, will he send cheques from Mr Sheldon's fighting fund back? And if not, why not?


It's certainly unusual for employers to contribute to a trade union fighting fund. Do you know which employers were involved, vikorr? (Sounds rather BLF-ish! :wink: )

Mind you, this is example seems rather small fry compared to the government/Liberal Party using millions of taxpayers' funds to push its campaign!
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msolga
 
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Reply Mon 1 Oct, 2007 04:01 am
Labor widens lead in new poll
Posted Mon Oct 1, 2007 7:00am AEST

Federal Labor has jumped ahead slightly in the latest opinion poll.

The Newspoll in today's Australian newspaper has the Opposition securing 56 per cent of the two-party-preferred vote, up 1 point.

The Coalition sits on 44 per cent - 12 points behind.


The Coalition has fallen 2 points in the primary vote to 39, while Labor is up 1 point to 48.

While Labor leader Kevin Rudd has dropped 1 point as preferred prime minister, he is still well ahead with 47 per cent of the vote.

Thirty-eight per cent of those surveyed over the weekend think John Howard makes a better prime minister than Mr Rudd would. ...

http://www.abc.com.au/news/stories/2007/10/01/2047428.htm
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msolga
 
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Reply Mon 1 Oct, 2007 06:09 am
OMG! This can't be true. Can it? Shocked
Let's hope the Libs get voted out - & soon! ..... before they can involve us in yet another hideous debacle!
I can't believe this!:


'US plan to bomb Iran'
Anne Davies
October 1, 2007 - 8:30AM/SMH


Australia, Britain and Israel have "expressed interest" in a US campaign to launch "surgical" bombing raids on Iran targeting the Revolutionary Guard facilities, one of the US's leading investigative reporters, Seymour Hersh, reports.

In a lengthy article in the latest issue of The New Yorker, Hersh details how the US is making plans for a strike on Iran, beefing up intelligence resources within the CIA and shifting its rhetorical campaign in a bid to win support from the American people should the strikes proceed. .........

Hersh said the bombing plan has had its most positive reception from Britain's Prime Minister, Gordon Brown.

While Hersh did not mention Australia in the article, he told CNN that there had been "expressions of interest" from Australia and Israel for the strike plan.

"There's been expressions of interest from Australia, other countries," he said.
......


......Australia's Minister for Defence, Brendan Nelson, was in the US a month ago for briefings with defence officials and a meeting with Defence Secretary Robert Gates.

He told reporters at the time that he had discussed Iran, but declined to elaborate ......

http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/us-plan-to-bomb-iran/2007/10/01/1191090983037.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1
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vikorr
 
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Reply Mon 1 Oct, 2007 04:28 pm
Please excuse the lengthy post.


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It's certainly unusual for employers to contribute to a trade union fighting fund. Do you know which employers were involved, vikorr? (Sounds rather BLF-ish! )

No, but that is not what I was referring to.

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Mind you, this is example seems rather small fry compared to the government/Liberal Party using millions of taxpayers' funds to push its campaign!

This is related to what I was referring to.

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TRANSPORT Workers Union official Tony Sheldon tells us millions of dollars that employers paid into a fighting fund are used to protect his members against the evils of the Government's workplace reforms. So that's all right then. Well, no, it's not.
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Actually, yes it is. Companies have a right to do with their money as they please, so long as it's in the interest of their shareholders or owners.

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For a start, there is the question of whether the companies that kicked the TWU tin received anything in return,

I'm sure they did.

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such as a sympathetic hearing from the union during negotiations and disputes, making it a case of cash for quiet.

A hypothetical, probably true, but not necessarily. Two observations - cash has often been a negotiating tool, and once again, companies, which are a private entity, can do what they like with their money.

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And then there is the issue
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of whose interests this deal served, workers whose labour may have been used as political pawns by their leaders,
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or the officials who decided what the money would be spent on
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Mr Sheldon's statement on the Nine Network's Sunday program yesterday that the money was spent on campaigns to win "better conditions for working families in our industries" is imprecise, at best

Says nothing while attempting to make Mr Sheldon look evasive

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As was his response to questions on whether money from the fund is assisting ALP candidates' campaigns.

Same as above, only this one is suggesting that donating to political funds is wrong…without a hint of irony that the Liberals enjoy big business donating to them?

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Mr Sheldon says that if any cash was used to assist the Labor candidate who replaced retired Victorian premier Steve Bracks, he does not know about it. This is not the same as a denial, especially as he also said that he didn't apologise for getting "people elected who support the principles of the union"

Nor should he. There is no issue, and he hasn't named one (certainly not compared to big business donations), but the editor attempts to presents it as one.

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And the last-ditch defence he presented during last week, that the claims about the fighting fund are mischief-making by a rival union, is plainly pathetic. The issue that matters is whether the allegations are correct, not where they come from.

According to the description provided by the editor, the Union appears to be doing what it is paid to do. So where is the issue?

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Rusted on Labor loyalists may wonder what the fuss is about. Certainly Kevin Rudd has not come over all outraged and denounced Mr Sheldon in the way he got stuck into union officials Dean Mighell and Joe McDonald, who are exiled from the Labor Party for the way they have attempted to intimidate employers.

Here the editor alleges employer intimidation (well, any union negotiation, no matter how mild, can be interpreted as containing intimidation)

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Perhaps this is because the Opposition Leader does not believe Mr Sheldon has done anything wrong - there is certainly no suggestion that either he or his officials have stood over employers while they wrote cheques for the TWU fighting fund - or anything illegal with the money.

And here in the remainder of the paragraph he says no such intimidation is taking place. Nor anything illegal (but he spent most of the intro suggesting dodgy dealings)

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Perhaps it is because Mr Sheldon is a senior figure in the industrial movement and as such, a far more powerful player than the blustering Mr Mighell and the bragging Mr McDonald, who both carry on as if they are about to fight their own private class wars.
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Perhaps Labor's campaign bean-counters are hoping for more help from the TWU, especially when the union has topped up its war chest with business contributions
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Again missing the irony of corruption caused through donations by big business to political parties. (and Unions represent people, whilst big business does not)

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Or perhaps Mr Rudd simply assumes that questions about what Mr Sheldon does with the TWU pork barrel will go away if everybody on the Labor side sticks to the script - that it is all about protecting "working families" from the Government's workplace laws.

Translation : Here he alleges that the uproar over workplaces is a cover.

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Maybe these questions will go away.

He's raised no questions - only hypotheticals.

Anyway…I'm sure you get the picture. The article goes on and on in this vein. It contains very very little substance, but a lot of blatant diversion and innuendo. Personally I was horrified by the standard of journalism, and I can't say I've ever had that reaction to an article before (of course, my expectations of an editor are much higher)
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msolga
 
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Reply Tue 2 Oct, 2007 02:53 am
vikorr wrote:
.....The article goes on and on in this vein. It contains very very little substance, but a lot of blatant diversion and innuendo. Personally I was horrified by the standard of journalism, and I can't say I've ever had that reaction to an article before (of course, my expectations of an editor are much higher)


Keep reading those Australian (& other Murdoch publications') editorials & blogs & you'll experience that feeling of horror quite a bit, Vikorr! Goes with the territory.:wink:
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msolga
 
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Reply Tue 2 Oct, 2007 03:05 am
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,5681039,00.jpg
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msolga
 
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Reply Tue 2 Oct, 2007 03:10 am
http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2007/10/01/021007wilcox_gallery__470x274.jpg
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msolga
 
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Reply Tue 2 Oct, 2007 03:28 am
WorkChoices research:

WorkChoices study fires up political debate
By Peta Donald/ ABC news online/2/10/2007

The Benchmark Report A new study of the Federal Government's WorkChoices laws show low-skilled employees, like childcare workers or shop assistants, are earning less on Australian Workplace Agreements (AWAs) than those on collective arrangements.

On average those on AWAs, according to the report, are earning $100 a week less.

The Federal Government has dismissed the findings, because as well as being funded by the Australian Research Council (ARC), the study was partly funded by the union movement.

The report from the University of Sydney is based on interviews with more than 8,300 workers about their working lives in the first year of WorkChoices.

It found highly skilled employees on Australian workplace agreements are doing well, earning more than they otherwise would.

But the report's lead researcher, Dr Brigid van Wanrooy, says it is a different story for the low-skilled on AWAs.

"Low-skilled workers were doing the best on collective arrangements," she said.

"They were earning roughly $100 more per week than low-skilled workers on AWAs."

"We're talking about childcare workers, shop assistants, call centre workers, labourers, those sorts of jobs. They told us how much they're earning, and on average it's $100 less."

The interviews were done between March and July this year.

In the middle of that time, in May, the Federal Government introduced its fairness test, so that award conditions could not be traded away without fair compensation.

Dr van Wanrooy argues the fairness test does not change her study's findings.

Those AWAs paying $100 a week less than collective agreements would be okay because they're still paying more than the award.

"These AWAs would still be able to pass through the fairness test because they're still better than the award agreements," she said.

"Our findings just show that workers just do better off if they're negotiating collectively."

More than half the new AWAs, according to the study, have been struck by low-skilled workers.

"These new AWAs were giving less opportunity for employees to negotiate pay with their employer, they were occurring more amongst people we know who are in a position to bargain for themselves," she said.

"So more than a third of young workers aged 16 to 24 were on these new AWAs, and ... more than half of them occurred among low-skilled workers who we've shown aren't getting the best earnings and hours outcomes on AWAs."

The study will interview the same workers every year over five years. It has been partly funded by Unions New South Wales.

Dr van Wanrooy defends the report's independence.

"To get the funding from the Australian Research Council, the research went under complete scrutiny from a panel of ARC experts," she said.

"The other thing is the Unions New South Wales have put a substantial amount of money into this research, and there's no point them spending that money to produce biased statistics.

"This is a long-term research project, and they see the value in collecting rigorous data, which will enable them to contribute effectively to the debate on working time." ...<cont>

http://www.abc.com.au/news/stories/2007/10/02/2049186.htm
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msolga
 
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Reply Tue 2 Oct, 2007 04:27 am
Did any one see Kerry O'Brien interview Joe Hockey on the 7:30 Report just now? When asked to actually give concrete examples & details to back-up his claims that the report was flawed & lacked credibility he came up with next to nothing. Just kept waffling away about how the government really wants people to have jobs & higher pay. What a slimy performance! Rolling Eyes So the report did have some union funding (as well as considerable federal government funding!) & so the academics involved had had some previous union-based research experience ... so what? Hockey & JH slammed their findings (based on more than 8000 interviews) as being inaccurate & biased, because it confirmed what we already know: low paid workers are being screwed by WorkChoices & their AWAs. Collective bargaining achieves better pay outcomes for unskilled workers. The academics involved in the production of the report are not at all pleased about being discredited.:

Academics may sue over Hockey comments
By Adam Gartrell, Denis Peters and Danny Rose
October 02, 2007/the AUSTRALIAN


SENIOR academics are threatening legal action against the Federal Government after it attacked the credibility of their study showing low-skilled workers were around $100 a week worse off under Australian Workplace Agreements (AWAs). ....... (see post above)

............ Workplace Relations Minister Joe Hockey said the report was not credible because it was partially funded by Unions New South Wales and because the academics had done work for unions in the past.

"It is the same old flawed research from the same old union academics," he said.

"It contradicts far more reliable findings from the Australian Bureau of Statistics (ABS).

"It is hardly surprising that academics such as John Buchanan and Brigid van Wanrooy, who have previously authored ACTU (Australian Council of Trade Unions) research, would come up with such a flawed report."

But unions and the University of Sydney academics pointed out the report was also partially funded by the Government's own Australian Research Council (ARC).

Dr Buchanan, co-author of the study and director of Sydney University's Workplace Research Centre, said he had sought legal advice about the Government's accusations and was considering defamation action.

"We would prefer not to have this settled in court ... but if the Government persists in saying very hurtful and very untrue statements about us we will be left with no other option than to use the protection of the common law," he told ABC Radio.

"To accuse academics of concocting a story is probably the most vile thing you can say abut somebody who prides themselves on the pursuit of the truth."

Asked if he would apologise, Mr Hockey told ABC Radio: "I am always happy to apologise to anyone who feels affronted by my behaviour.

"But I do recognise that I have a right to point out the history of research undertaken by a number of academics and point out that the research in this case is being paid for by the union movement."

Dr van Wanrooy, another co-author of the report, said Mr Hockey's comments were "outrageous" and she had only once before been involved in research with any union association, in 2001. ....<cont>


http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,22520863-26103,00.html
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dadpad
 
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Reply Tue 2 Oct, 2007 04:35 am
Watching with interest.
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Wilso
 
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Reply Tue 2 Oct, 2007 06:41 am
I can't remember ever wanting to get rid of a government as badly as I want to be rid of this lot. There have been governments at both state and federal level whose (who's?) policies I disagree with. But I can't remember ever feeling such unadulterated hatred as I do for the worthless f@cking slime that we've got now. They are beneath any expressible contempt.
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msolga
 
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Reply Tue 2 Oct, 2007 06:48 am
... & they fight extra dirty!

I reckon these last few weeks before the election are going to be sooooo ugly! It's as if they have nothing left to lose so anything, absolutely anything, goes!
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dadpad
 
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Reply Tue 2 Oct, 2007 10:04 am
Dont know how true this is.

At the grand final breakfast.....

The Leader of the Opposition Kevin Rudd walked down the red carpet to the strains of 'Anything You Can Do I Can Do Better' while the introduction of Prime Minister John Howard was greeted with 1970s disco classic 'I Will Survive'.
But the laughs were loudest for Lord Mayor John So who walked to the Carly Simon classic You're so Vain.
http://www.afl.com.au/Default.aspx?tabid=208&newsId=51926



I paid $1.41 per litre for diesel today
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vikorr
 
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Reply Tue 2 Oct, 2007 03:22 pm
I doubt very much that any legal action will come of it - the Federal Govt controls most of the funding and grants to Universities. Funding as in the yearly support given to each Uni isn't a likely issue, but grants for research projects (which the govt supposedly chooses which to fund based on merit)...the University would no doubt be made aware that their applications for such grants would be "scrutinised more closely than in the past, for in the past we have given you grants based on reputation and good will rather than strictly on merit" or something close to that.

So the academics bosses won't back them, nor will funding for legal challenge be provided. The academics would have to take on the might of the Fed Govt out of their own pocket...and in the near future, I daresay, with grant money drying up, their own jobs would be in jeopardy.

Not many people would want to put themselves in that position.
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