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gungasnake
 
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Reply Mon 13 Mar, 2017 01:38 am
I mean, what a wonderful feeling, almost like having Ike back in charge of things!!!!!

http://www.history.com/s3static/video-thumbnails/AETN-History_VMS/21/133/history_eisenhower_2nd_berlin_crisis_speech_still_624x352.jpg
gungasnake
 
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Reply Mon 13 Mar, 2017 01:46 am
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Mon 13 Mar, 2017 09:59 am
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Afghan ambassador compoares DT and Obunga:

http://ijr.com/2017/03/822619-i-had-dinner-with-the-afghanistan-ambassador-what-he-said-about-the-differences-between-trump-obama-is-stunning/
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camlok
 
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Reply Mon 13 Mar, 2017 01:22 pm
@gungasnake,
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having Ike back


Reminiscing about your ole war criminals. How sweet.
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Mon 13 Mar, 2017 06:58 pm
I mean, when Ike was president, people slept peacefully, they knew the nothing really bad could ever happen to the United States with a man like that in charge.

When little kids had bad dreams in those days, it was from watching Lon Cheney in his werewolf suit; it wasn't from worrying about being hauled off to some pizza parlor by a bunch of fat, perverted, Democrats, being spirit cooked, and then sacrificed to pagan gods and goddesses in some sadistic ritual...

giujohn
 
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Reply Tue 14 Mar, 2017 09:27 am
And in those days the press to at place.
camlok
 
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Reply Tue 14 Mar, 2017 10:57 am
@giujohn,
Someone please translate guijohn.
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giujohn
 
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Reply Tue 14 Mar, 2017 11:03 am
@giujohn,
Auto correct...

In those days the press knew it's place.
camlok
 
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Reply Tue 14 Mar, 2017 11:07 am
@gungasnake,
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I mean, when Ike was president, people slept peacefully,


Not the people of Guatemala, who "with a man like that in charge" were slaughtered, had their democratically elected government overthrown and became, as has been the case myriad times, the servants of American greed.
camlok
 
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Reply Tue 14 Mar, 2017 11:17 am
@giujohn,
Just as they do now.

Pretend to report; it makes the goofballs think the US system works.
giujohn
 
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Reply Tue 14 Mar, 2017 11:54 am
@camlok,
The press doesn't report the news they produce/sell infotainment.

And if it ain't there, they make it up as they go. In Ike's time the 3 network news agency's broadcast was 15 minutes at the dinner hour...And that was during the height of the cold war.

And now with the 24 hour news cycle and the internet they must fill it and yellow journalism is reborn.

Anyone who doesnt recognize that, is an idiot.
camlok
 
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Reply Tue 14 Mar, 2017 12:05 pm
@giujohn,
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In Ike's time the 3 network news agency's broadcast was 15 minutes at the dinner hour...And that was during the height of the cold war.


Yes, it was much much easier to fill the dunderheads of the 50s and 60s in 15 minutes of news.

Did they have time to tell of Ike's war crimes in 15 minutes?
giujohn
 
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Reply Tue 14 Mar, 2017 12:20 pm
@camlok,
And you're MUCH smarter than your parents 😵
camlok
 
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Reply Tue 14 Mar, 2017 12:54 pm
@giujohn,
You suggest that you are the adult. Stop avoiding the issues.
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Tue 14 Mar, 2017 05:46 pm
@camlok,
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I mean, when Ike was president, people slept peacefully,


Not the people of Guatemala, who "with a man like that in charge" were slaughtered, had their democratically elected government overthrown and became, as has been the case myriad times, the servants of American greed.


It's really easy to judge other people by your standards or to judge people of other ages by the standards of your age...

Communists really were out to take over the entire world in the decades following World War II and the concerns which Ike and the Dulles brothers had about communism in our own hemisphere were well-founded, even granting that they created grief in some instances.

Ike will mainly be judged by the things which DIDN'T happen when he was president, the most major of which was World War II being restarted on a 3500 km front.

Ike had three tools to try to use in the Cold War, one of which was overwhelmingly expensive, and the other two of which were cheap. The expensive thing, restarting World War II on a 3500 km front against the Soviet Union, was avoided altogether. The two things which were relatively very much cheaper were the use of covert operations, and the creation of a nuclear deterrent so overwhelming that nobody with the brains of a chicken or anything better than that would ever try anything. That included that gigantic fleet of B 36 bombers which was never used in combat. A.B. 36 bomber fleet only looks expensive before you compare it to the cost of a Third World war.

In the case of the Dulles brothers, Ian Fleming, James Bond, and our goofball CIA, again there was collateral damage, but nothing like the damage from a Third World war and, again, that was the choice.

The GOP slogan at the time was peace, progress, and prosperity and it was more than just a slogan, it was real. For eight years, nothing really bad ever happened to the United States.

A B-36 bomber next to a B-29. The B-29 was the largest and heaviest bomber created during World War II:

https://acesflyinghigh.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/b-36aarrivalcarswell1948.jpg
gungasnake
 
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Reply Tue 14 Mar, 2017 05:51 pm
http://airwingmedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/b36-6.jpg
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camlok
 
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Reply Tue 14 Mar, 2017 05:52 pm
@gungasnake,
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It's really easy to judge other people by your standards or to judge people of other ages by the standards of your age...


They are not my standard, they are the world's standard, the standard established largely by the USA at the Nuremberg/Tokyo War Crimes Tribunals.

Ike, and every other US president since WWII, [and very likely before] was/is a war criminal, and a terrorist even though the US hadn't invented that boogeyman way back then.
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