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Supreme Court takes Ten Commandments case

 
 
Reply Tue 12 Oct, 2004 09:45 am
AP is reporting that the Supreme Court has taken a case on the constitutionality of Ten Commandments displays on government land and buildings.

The justices will consider the constitutionality of a Ten Commandments monument on the grounds of the Texas state Capitol (Orden v. Perry, US Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit, November 2003), and the posting of the Ten Commandments in courthouses in Kentucky.

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Posted on Tue, Oct. 12, 2004

Supreme Court to Hear Commandments Case

GINA HOLLAND

Associated Press


WASHINGTON - The Supreme Court said Tuesday it will take up the constitutionality of Ten Commandments displays on government land and buildings, a surprise announcement that puts justices in the middle of a politically sensitive issue.

Justices have repeatedly refused to revisit issues raised by their 1980 decision that banned the posting of copies of the Ten Commandments in public school classrooms.

In the meantime, lower courts have reached a hodgepodge of conflicting rulings that allow displays in some instances but not in others.

The high court will hear appeals early next year involving displays in Kentucky and Texas.

In the Texas case, the justices will decide if a Ten Commandments monument on the state Capitol grounds is an unconstitutional attempt to establish state-sponsored religion.

A homeless man, Thomas Van Orden, lost his lawsuit to have the 6-foot tall red granite removed. The Fraternal Order of Eagles donated the monument to the state in 1961. The group gave scores of similar monuments to American towns during the 1950s and '60s, and those have been the subject of multiple court fights.

Separately, they will consider whether a lower court wrongly barred the posting of the Ten Commandments in Kentucky courthouses.

McCreary and Pulaski county officials hung framed copies of the Ten Commandments in their courthouses and later added other documents, such as the Magna Carta and Declaration of Independence, after the display was challenged.

Last week, the justices rejected an appeal from a high-profile crusader for Ten Commandment monuments, ousted Alabama Chief Justice Roy Moore, who lost his job after defying a federal order to dismantle a Ten Commandments monument.

The Ten Commandments contain both religious and secular directives, including the familiar proscriptions on stealing, killing and adultery. The Bible says God gave the list to Moses.

The Constitution bars any state "establishment" of religion. That means the government cannot promote religion in general, or favor one faith over another.

The lawyer for the Kentucky counties, Mathew Staver of the conservative law group Liberty Counsel, told justices that lower courts are fractured on the issue. A divided appeals court panel sided with the American Civil Liberties Union in the Kentucky case.

In the past decade, justices have refused to get involved in Ten Commandments disputes from around the country. Three conservative justices complained in 2001, when the court declined to rule on the constitutionality of a Ten Commandments display in front of the Elkhart, Ind., Municipal Building.

Chief Justice William H. Rehnquist, joined by Justices Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas, said the city sought to reflect the cultural, historical and legal significance of the commandments. Rehnquist noted that justices' own chambers includes a carving of Moses holding the Ten Commandments.

The Rev. Barry W. Lynn of Americans United for Separation of Church and State said Tuesday that he hopes the court uses the cases to declare government displays of religious documents and symbols unconstitutional.

"It's clear that the Ten Commandments is a religious document. Its display is appropriate in houses of worship but not at the seat of government," Lynn said.

The cases are Van Orden v. Perry, 03-1500 and McCreary County v. ACLU, 03-1693.
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ebrown p
 
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Reply Tue 12 Oct, 2004 10:59 am
I would like to propose a modest compromise. Instead of the 10 commandments (which were from Moses and the old covenent) we display something that truly reflects our heritage as a Christian nation...

Jesus of Nazereth wrote:

1. Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you.

2. If someone strikes you on one cheek, turn to him the other also. If someone takes your cloak, do not stop him from taking your tunic.

3. Give to everyone who asks you, and if anyone takes what belongs to you, do not demand it back. Do to others as you would have them do to you.

4. Love your enemies, do good to them, and lend to them without expecting to get anything back. Then your reward will be great, and you will be sons of the Most High, because he is kind to the ungrateful and wicked.

5. Be merciful, just as your Father is merciful.

6. Do not judge, and you will not be judged.

7. Do not condemn, and you will not be condemned.

8. Forgive, and you will be forgiven.


What say you?

Let's post these in each Courtroom as a sign of our religious heritage.
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hamburger
 
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Reply Tue 12 Oct, 2004 05:22 pm
ebrown : knowing just a little bit about human mankind, i think not many pilgrims will adopt the creed of jesus of nazereth; too many are busy beating plowshares into guns right now, don't ya' see ? hbg
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Eva
 
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Reply Tue 12 Oct, 2004 08:17 pm
Yep....WAAAAY too liberal. Wink
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bashtoreth
 
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Reply Sat 16 Oct, 2004 06:15 pm
Can someone take that quote off the post? I am offended....
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joefromchicago
 
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Reply Mon 18 Oct, 2004 09:11 am
bashtoreth wrote:
Can someone take that quote off the post? I am offended....
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ebrown p
 
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Reply Mon 18 Oct, 2004 10:56 am
joefromchicago wrote:
bashtoreth wrote:
Can someone take that quote off the post? I am offended....
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I don't get it either. What offended you? Or am I humor impaired this morning?
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