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Computer scientists think voting machines were hacked

 
 
Reply Wed 23 Nov, 2016 09:45 pm
https://www.yahoo.com/style/m/4b60fbe1-e0d4-32bb-b4cd-e925acfa6694/ss_computer-scientists-think.html

If true, they would need to prove they were hacked, and the votes changed. Otherwise, it's a non-starter.
 
Kolyo
 
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Reply Wed 23 Nov, 2016 09:48 pm
They should get rid of the stupid machines and have paper ballots.

Why do people use shitty tech for tech's own sake?
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maxdancona
 
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Reply Wed 23 Nov, 2016 10:36 pm
Already Debunked...

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/demographics-not-hacking-explain-the-election-results/

Kolyo
 
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Reply Wed 23 Nov, 2016 10:47 pm
@maxdancona,
This time perhaps, but they should still use paper ballots like they do in my state. You fill in the bubbles with a pen, and I think a machine processes them. But you have that paper trail if you need it.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 23 Nov, 2016 11:00 pm
@Kolyo,
Our paper ballots are connecting two dots with a dash.
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blatham
 
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Reply Wed 23 Nov, 2016 11:26 pm
Josh Marshall at TPM has a good piece on this. He's cynical. http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/those-russian-election-hacking-claims
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tony5732
 
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Reply Fri 25 Nov, 2016 12:32 am
Well, at this point anything done now except accepting a trump administration would end in a brawl. Conservatives usually don't like stirring up nation wide riots when their candidate doesn't win. After we HAVE a winner, and a loser that admitted defeat, it's over.

Putting us through an 8 year Obama nightmare was OK. We lost, fair and square.

Putting someone in office who should be in jail, needs a pardon, and lied her ass off just because she has one of those special last names and some dipshits decided to burn **** down again? After she already lost the vote? Not ok
Kolyo
 
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Reply Fri 25 Nov, 2016 12:38 am
No one in this thread suggested overturning the election result.
tony5732
 
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Reply Fri 25 Nov, 2016 12:46 am
@Kolyo,
Good point. Sorry. Defensive.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 25 Nov, 2016 03:46 pm
@tony5732,
Obama nightmare? You really don't know how well Obama led our country, do you?
Here's a list of his accomplishments. These are only the top 50. Read it and weep.
http://washingtonmonthly.com/magazine/marchapril-2012/obamas-top-50-accomplishments/
tony5732
 
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Reply Fri 25 Nov, 2016 06:35 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Well yeah, most of that stuff is exactly why I didn't like him. He spent a crap load of money we didn't have left us in a huge deficit.

He did nothing and basically said nothing about the riots.

He has been pushing anti-guns.

He came up with Obamacare, which is a failure.

He bent over for Iran.

He IS a likeable person, and I DO think he tried hard to do the right things. But for someone like me who likes capitalism, religious freedom, gun rights, having a reasonable level of national debt, not being at war with russia, and nothaving to worry about years of civil unrest, Obama sucked. As a president, not a person.

cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 28 Nov, 2016 08:56 pm
@tony5732,
Your claim that Obama has been pushing "anti-gun" is wrong. ..

Quote:
One of the main proposals Obama is poised to adopt would require some unlicensed gun dealers to get licenses and conduct background checks on potential buyers. The change is aimed at occasional dealers, including some who sell online frequently or rent tables at gun shows but do not have a storefront.

Obama began examining how he could tighten the nation’s gun rules after October’s mass shooting at Umpqua Community College in Roseburg, Ore. Administration lawyers have spent months reviewing various proposals to make sure they can withstand legal challenges.

The idea of requiring informal gun dealers to obtain a license from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives and of conducting background checks came up two years ago when White House officials drafted a proposal for dealers who sell at least 50 guns annually.

tony5732
 
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Reply Mon 28 Nov, 2016 09:53 pm
@cicerone imposter,
OK, you can have that one. What about the other stuff? We don't owe trillions of dollars more than we did with Bush? Obamacare premiumso weren't about to go up? America wasn't having nationwide riots while Obama called it "freedom of speech ". He didn't just whine about racism as a black president? Are we still at war after 8 years?
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 1 Dec, 2016 11:30 pm
@tony5732,
A little education on the national debt: https://www.thebalance.com/national-debt-under-obama-3306293
tony5732
 
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Reply Fri 2 Dec, 2016 09:43 pm
@cicerone imposter,
So basically what the site is saying is that if you don't like what you see, just look at it another way or hold someone else accountable for what happens during your term.

He had 8 years in office......... nothing went in a positive direction no matter which of your three ways you want to look at it. It's either a little pile of ****, a medium sized pile of ****, or 9 trillion dollars worth of ****.

America owes 9 trillion more dollars than they did before Obama stepped in office. That is the undisputed fact.
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Sun 25 Dec, 2016 11:31 pm
@tony5732,
GOPonomics trashed the world economy two years before Obama got in. it is simple keynesisn evonomics that govetnment spending, i.e. increasing the national debt can jump start a stalled economy. Once its going good and govt revenuue is icreasing sgsin you start paying it back. Obams did it. It worked. The debt is bgoing down . we avoided the four years of sta timegnation europe suffered. Obama was right. Ttump is likely to start another unregulated bubble and start it all over again.6
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 27 Dec, 2016 07:01 pm
@MontereyJack,
All true; our employment picture finally improved during Obama's tenure to pre-2008/09 recession levels. The biggest problem seems to be that the richer got much richer while the middle class and the poor have shown little improvement. I'm not so sure anyone can blame Obama for that wage stagnation.
I guess it all depends on where one lives. Here in Silicon Valley where we live, salaries and benefits are some of the best in the country, but the cost of living here is atrocious. Homes like ours are selling for $1.5 million plus.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/silicon-valley-salaries_us_56d61ee6e4b0bf0dab33ce96

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