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... because (she said) the election "is rigged". Well, I've heard of fighting fire with fire, but isn't that a bit over the top? And now James Comey interfering in the election. is America headed for a fascist coup d'état like the Brexit thing in Britain? Sure feels like it.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/oct/29/voter-fraud-iowa-trump-supporter

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[+3] - engineer - 10/29/2016In France I would say it is Jean-Marie Le Pen. Marine LePen is what comes next in the US, someone who says the same thing Trump does but sugar coats it.

@contrex,

Simply, no. The price to vote fraudulently is too high, and it's not only stupid but self-destructive. Another one vote isn't worth it.

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@contrex,

Who or what would you say the British equivalent of Trump is?

In France I would say it's Marine LePen.

Are Conservatives basically good democrats in the UK?

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@contrex,

Quote:

Under federal law, perpetrators face up to five years in prison and a fine of $10,000 for each act of fraud. In Alabama, voter fraud is punishable by up to two years in prison and a $2,000 fine. In Wisconsin, the punishment is up to 31 / 2 years in prison and a $10,000 fine.Oct 7, 2011
Five myths about voter fraud - The Washington Post
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/10/29/is-this-proof-of-voter-fraud-or-election-rigging-a-user-guide/
and
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/five-myths-about-voter-fraud/2011/10/04/gIQAkjoYTL_story.html?utm_term=.503b5fbb9e4c

Also: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/trump-texas-vote-fraud-230384

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@cicerone imposter,

A glitch. You quoted contrex with a Guardian link and it came up with a Washington post citation - with a 404 error. Can't imagine how that happened.

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@roger,

Thanks roger. I think it's fixed now.

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@Kolyo,

In France I would say it is Jean-Marie Le Pen. Marine LePen is what comes next in the US, someone who says the same thing Trump does but sugar coats it.

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@engineer,

engineer wrote:

In France I would say it is Jean-Marie Le Pen. Marine LePen is what comes next in the US, someone who says the same thing Trump does but sugar coats it.

Yes.

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If they catch a dozen, nationwide, doing this I will be surprised, slightly. Not much of a story if they only caught one.

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@Kolyo,

There is no British equivalent, our system is completely different. You're not going to understand non US politics if you keep viewing things through a US stencil.

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@izzythepush,

There are parties in Europe, if not in Britain, who refer to themselves as "national conservative". It's a movement in more countries than the US. It has nothing to do with systems; it has to do with ideology. I've met plenty of Brits in my own extended family who would sign on with the national conservative movement. Very frustrating, to have to listen to them talk about race.

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@Kolyo,

Kolyo wrote:

There are parties in Europe, if not in Britain, who refer to themselves as "national conservative". It's a movement in more countries than the US. It has nothing to do with systems; it has to do with ideology. I've met plenty of Brits in my own extended family who would sign on with the national conservative movement. Very frustrating, to have to listen to them talk about race.

In Britain you have (for example) the British National Party - ultra-right, racist, and they have a vanishingly small membership and a tiny share of election votes. In the 2015 General Election they put up candidates in 9 parliamentary seats, and the highest number of votes they got was 489 in Charnwood (0.9% of the votes cast). The winning Conservative candidate got 26,560 (54.3% of the votes cast). This was their best result, remember. In the other 8 seats they got 0.2% to 0.6% of the votes.

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@Kolyo,

Kolyo wrote:

There are parties in Europe, if not in Britain

Nor is it just in the US or Europe. Here's a very much abbreviated list of better-known parties across the planet with national conservative ideology:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_conservatism#List_of_national_conservative_political_parties

* Australia: One Nation
* France: National Front
* India: the BJP
* Italy: Brothers of Italy
* Norway: Progress Party
* Poland: Law and Justice
* Russia: United Russia (Putin's party)
* Sweden: the Sweden Democrats

It is noted in the list that factions of the GOP could be correctly described as "national conservative", although not the party as a whole.
I don't think Paul Ryan qualifies.

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@Kolyo,

None of that means there's a British equivalent to Trump. It's not like Shelbyville.

http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/simpsons/images/c/c1/Joe's.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20100927195258

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