@Setanta,
I didnt vote anything down> I have NEVER voted anything down(that I cn recall). Ita a stupid rather puerile system that merely makes childish vindictive people feel good about themselves.
We argue more substantive things than to fall back on some **** that uses thumbs to pile on. I think I have more integrity to yell at you strait on than hide behind the digit. (Anyway, were I to digit salute someone, I would NOT use a thumb)
Anyway, my post was more a discussion about where in line "handy man" fits on a limb along side the tree limb that contains the "African Southern Ape"
The first in line of the Australopithecenes has always been A. anamensis. (Thatd be the 1930ish Toyota). A. africanus does not appear until about 2 million yers later