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Dream of Constantine

 
 
Reply Mon 27 Sep, 2004 08:27 am
Dream of Constantine


Pass the day for bravado,
And I will not meet your eye -
The waves of barley pass below
A wake of hurricane
I have not a soldier met, the fields
Of running blood -
These wretched patches, boiling sod, intransigent
Mercurial earth.
Pass the day my caged canary,
And I will not stop to chatter -
The craters spot the shattered whey
A rage of understood
I have but a final wish, the dream
Of Constantine -
These wretched patches, boiling mud, intransigent
Mercurial earth.

2004 - Kelly Vinal

New poem for Monday - fresh - not cured or canned like that poetry from Slate Magazine :-)
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kellyvinal
 
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Reply Wed 29 Sep, 2004 06:36 am
What? No responses :-( I'm toying with style elements and you fine guys and gals are my guinea pigs! Let me have it!
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cavfancier
 
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Reply Wed 29 Sep, 2004 06:42 am
As a Mercurial Virgo, I am highly insulted. Just kidding. Wink I might suggest making the two lines "pass the day my caged canary/and I will not stop to chatter" into a stanza. Now I sing, "It's Istanbul not Constantinople" but I digress, yet again. It's a strong piece.
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kellyvinal
 
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Reply Thu 30 Sep, 2004 02:30 am
For you Cav... there is music...
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stuh505
 
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Reply Thu 30 Sep, 2004 08:51 am
The overral flow is good. If I recall correctly...Constantine the great was the war leader that had the ambition to defeat the Persian army? All I can gather is that this is about the battlefields in his wake. There are a lot of seemingly random references that are metaphors which I don't get. I like the flow and rhyme at the dream of Constantine lines.
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cavfancier
 
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Reply Thu 30 Sep, 2004 09:44 am
Constantine was the first Roman emperor to embrace Christianity, and he had some hard times there: http://www.roman-emperors.org/conniei.htm
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kellyvinal
 
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Reply Thu 30 Sep, 2004 11:45 am
Good!!! Constantine was as Cav says. Now, place the the rest of the poem in that context. I am focused here on war, or war-like imagry. Cav has identified the significance of Constantine and his Roman empire. What is happening in the modern world that resembles Constantinian Rome?
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cavfancier
 
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Reply Thu 30 Sep, 2004 12:36 pm
I refuse to answer. I want stuh to address the question.
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kellyvinal
 
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Reply Fri 1 Oct, 2004 12:19 pm
Anyone else?
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cavfancier
 
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Reply Fri 1 Oct, 2004 12:44 pm
Do I need to pipe in on Constantine's political motivations for conversion? Come on smart folks, pipe in!
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kellyvinal
 
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Reply Fri 1 Oct, 2004 04:44 pm
Most mercurial...
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cavfancier
 
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Reply Fri 1 Oct, 2004 04:53 pm
Just chiming in. Wink
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kellyvinal
 
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Reply Sat 2 Oct, 2004 06:39 am
:-)
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cavfancier
 
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Reply Sat 2 Oct, 2004 06:42 am
I wanted to compliment you for single-handedly breathing life into the Original Writing forum. So, congrats! I haven't seen this much activity here since I joined A2K a couple of years ago. Smile
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cavfancier
 
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Reply Sat 2 Oct, 2004 06:43 am
Actually, to be more accurate, I haven't seen this much activity in this forum EVER.
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kellyvinal
 
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Reply Sat 2 Oct, 2004 07:59 am
It is a labor of love :-)
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kellyvinal
 
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Reply Mon 4 Oct, 2004 07:18 am
The audience is speechless, awaiting you to drive your most learned stake through this one. Bring it home Cav!
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cavfancier
 
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Reply Mon 4 Oct, 2004 07:43 am
At The Battle of Milvian Bridge, Constantine and his army had a decisive victory over their rivals which effectively established Constantine as sole ruler of the Western half of the Empire. It is said that on the march to Rome, they witnessed a fiery cross in the sky with the inscription "by this sign you shall be victor." That night, Christ appeared to Constantine in a dream and instructed him to add the symbol of the cross to the shields and the battle standards of his army. Constantine maintained that was victory was due to the god of the Christians. Constantine continued to be plagued by divisions in the Church, and by 'pagan' tribes in the Empire. Somehow, our leader of the Western Empire seems to have similar problems, and a similar motivation for waging expansionist holy war in the middle east. That's my take on it anyway.
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kellyvinal
 
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Reply Mon 4 Oct, 2004 08:06 am
History repeating itself, perhaps?
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cavfancier
 
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Reply Mon 4 Oct, 2004 08:24 am
That was my first thought.
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