@ossobucotemp,
That sounded like I hate Baltimore, but I meant that the opposite way. I don't know the Ravens very well.
On Oakland, I somewhat get the place, have read about it forever, been there off and on, including in a class to look at a roof garden on top of a building, perhaps it was Kaiser, this when we were studying the details of roof gardening. To a good restaurant. Recently, I like their team a lot.
But before all that, I read the trouble. I am GO Oakland, but of course not always.
