What are we talking about?

In my mother language [commonly, in English, one says mother tongue, or native language], it’s sometimes said, literally, “(Then) what are we talking about, still/even now?” “Still” or something else is intended to express that this talk now is already past the point of discussion. [That last clause is difficult, i'm not sure what you meant to say,] So should I say ["rather" has no place in that clause] “(Then) why are we talking about it even now?” Or “Why do we keep talking about it?” Because things have become already too evident to keep talking about them. So, suppose somebody asks you if he should leave his job, and after he told you everything, you tell him: “So you say you hate your work, you hate everybody there, but you have a job offer elsewhere. It would be a much better job, with many kind people, it’s much (easier already means more easy, so more easier is redunant) easier work and you would earn much more… So then what are we talking about (…)?” So I don't know how is it said exactly in English.