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Do True Bisexuals Exist?

 
 
Reply Mon 11 Apr, 2016 01:13 am
Do true bisexuals exist? I've spoken to many who claim to be equally attracted to both men and women. Is this true? Do you like both men and women equally?
 
momoends
 
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Reply Mon 16 May, 2016 02:48 am
@FoxEmerson,
OMG bisexual is an individual that can feel attracted romantically and sexually to both sexes... that´s all
let me do that question about heterosexuals? do true heterosexuals exists. I´v spoken to many that claim they are equally attracted to any woman: blonde or brunette Is this true? you like both blondes and brunettes equally?
vikorr
 
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Reply Mon 16 May, 2016 04:44 am
@FoxEmerson,
Look up the Bell Curve
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Fil Albuquerque
 
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Reply Mon 16 May, 2016 04:46 am
Given nature's example they do far more often then pure homosexuals...
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jjfree38
 
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Reply Fri 26 Aug, 2016 05:28 pm
@FoxEmerson,
I would say it does..but what I've discovered with the guys that I know who are bisexual is that they tend to be leaning more towards their attraction to men as opposed to women. There is this one guy whom I had met when I came out as a gay man. He and another guy I had met this one night at a gay club but I became a close friend with the other guy as opposed to this one because he had moved out of town not too long after meeting him. However, from the behavior I had witnessed during the times I've spent in his company, when I found out he was bisexual, I was shocked to say the least. Anyway, after all of these years, I ran into this guy last year. He told me that he was married with two children and they have been together for almost twenty years. I come to respect whatever your situation is but I will say that I will not mess around with you sexually if you are a married man in a relationship. To say the least, this guy made it known to me that he was interested in me and thinks about me all the time. I would never respond or ignore when he would talk like this because I thought it was disrespectful towards not only me ...but his wife as well although I found out that he has been going out of town or to gyms to quench his urges for guys and then go back home to maintain his home life with his wife and kids.

Needless to say that this guy would always contact me whenever she was not in the house or working late at work. He became a stalker as well. If I was not home when he called or if I were on a date, he would get really upset. Can you say..."CRAY CRAY"... Once he began to display this behavior, I blocked his calls and ignored his texts until he got the message that I did not want to be bothered with him that way. So...from my understanding, this guy is still living this double life which is supposedly unknown to his wife which by the way he always proclaimed to me how much he loved her and yet..you are having sex with guys on the DL.
momoends
 
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Reply Sat 27 Aug, 2016 04:48 pm
@jjfree38,
bisexual means being able to feel attracted by both genders.... it doesn´t imply it has to be in the same measure or at the same time....
Anyway, not being faithful to your partner is not correct to me whether it happens in an heterosexual or homosexual relationship....
my experience so far opposes yours but it seems a little rushed to get to a conclusion about anything based on just one example
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The Marauder
 
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Reply Wed 21 Jun, 2017 03:07 am
@momoends,
I don't think a "true" or "pure" heterosexual exists. I believe everyone has some same sex attraction, no matter what they say or how strong/weak it may be. It's impossible to prove, but I definitely believe this.

As far as the "true" bisexual thing....I don't really get it. I mean what, would they add up how much time they've spent with male vs. females and keep it the same? There are definitely different levels of bisexuality. I, for example, considered myself straight until around the age of 25.

I had always had sexual attractions to men, but I suppressed it. There were at least a couple times in m early 20's where I watched a little gay porn here and there,(and feeling ashamed after because of the whole stigma surrounding it) but that was it. Then, my girlfriend started doing a little ass play with me. Then one day we were taking about fantasies and I was talking about watching her get fucked by another guy.

She said"what if he started ******* you in the ass"? I said I would like that. So once she knew and it didn't bother her(in fact she kinda gets off on it, and she was incredibly supportive with all this.),I said enough is enough. I'm gonna do what I want to do and not feel guilty or ashamed afterwards.

Now all that said, I've never had a boyfriend, that's kinda where I draw the line. purely for the sex with men, with females I have actual dating relationships. I just don't feel the same connection with men that I do with females to make an actual relationship work. Plus, I love cuddlin with my thick,soft lady every night.
vikorr
 
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Reply Wed 21 Jun, 2017 05:12 am
@The Marauder,
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I don't think a "true" or "pure" heterosexual exists


Another person who has little understanding of the Bell Curve. It's an incredibly useful thing to understand, when you try talking about any statistical spread in humans.

Of course, when discussing particular human related statistics, environment & culture can change it (eg work performance, wealth relative to other countries etc), but as a measure related to simple stats, it seems to always hold true.
celebritydiscodave
 
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Reply Wed 21 Jun, 2017 07:20 am
@vikorr,
The question is as to whether being attracted to neither sex genuinely exists. the finding of both sexes grose, not necessarily romantically, other than by its narrow definition, but specifically sexually, and whilst at the same time being healthy and virile. There is a considerable amount endemic to both sexes which is not exactly sexually appealing. I`m not sure that asexual covers it, I believe there is a group distinctly bi or het which is full on right up to the point of the final act. I can find my own sex to be either attractive or unattractive, but I`m totally incapable of finding it sexually unattractive come attractive, here I`m totally functionless.
vikorr
 
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Reply Wed 21 Jun, 2017 01:45 pm
@celebritydiscodave,
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The question is as to whether being attracted to neither sex genuinely exists.
Err, the question was whether or not true bisexuals exist.

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I can find my own sex to be either attractive or unattractive, but I`m totally incapable of finding it sexually unattractive come attractive, here I`m totally functionless.
Don't forget that such things can come down to psyhological damage as well.

Could you find Asexual on the Bell Curve. I'm sure you could if you defined the Curve by 'degree of sexual attraction'. There you would find Asexual at one end, and (I guess) sex addicts at the other.
celebritydiscodave
 
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Reply Thu 22 Jun, 2017 02:50 am
@vikorr,
Psychological damage, well, this depends on one`s definition for what constitutes damage. All abrupt change in sexual need and urgency could be argued to come under this heading of damage, perhaps in both the average as well the less than average direction. As for what is normal where does one even begin? My definition would not accommodate as being considered damage any incident. or incidents which tend one in the average direction, even should they be violent.
I do not believe that the desire to abstain from penetrative sex necessarily reflects out in the overall level of attraction, and in some it may even heighten it. We are now in the realms of fantasy and the spiritual, in my view of the very best romantic verse. Far more powerful than overtly sexual. Therefore, in my view, there may be a group of us that are sexually misunderstood/represented.
As for whether true bisexuals exist why is this even being questioned in the first instance. As it is possible to be attracted to one sex what would be the insurmountable obstacle to being attracted to both.?
vikorr
 
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Reply Thu 22 Jun, 2017 03:57 am
@celebritydiscodave,
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Psychological damage, well, this depends on one`s definition for what constitutes damage.
It's almost like you've been reading too many philosophy forums. This sort of vagueness allows a person to avoid working with something concrete, and seems quite common in those forums.

If you're ever seen the arguments over 'does self exist' you'll know what I mean. There's an argument for it, but what does it achieve? (usually...endless debate without true meaning / excusing achievement)

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All abrupt change in sexual need and urgency could be argued to come under this heading of damage, perhaps in both the average as well the less than average direction. As for what is normal where does one even begin?
With a starting point. It could even be an arbitrary starting point - eventually you end up on a path.

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Therefore, in my view, there may be a group of us that are sexually misunderstood/represented.
It seems to me inevitable that there would be such a group, and even a number of such groups.
celebritydiscodave
 
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Reply Thu 22 Jun, 2017 05:58 am
@vikorr,
It's almost like you've been reading too many philosophy forums. This sort of vagueness allows a person to avoid working with something concrete, and seems quite common in those forums.

Even so, one still requires to know the specifics of a second parties position. This was my direction. Nothing remains vague once one knows. I quite agree that most of the time in most philosophy forums they are functioning entirely at odds with making any genuine progress. Debating the meaning of terms, for this is all that truly is, is pointless. One can do social philosophy however, or philosophy in the wake of new science.
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maxdancona
 
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Reply Sun 25 Jun, 2017 08:13 pm
@The Marauder,
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I don't think a "true" or "pure" heterosexual exists.


Do you believe a pure homosexual exists... or do you believe that every homosexual has some attraction to the opposite sex no matter what they say?

This seems a little offensive to me.
celebritydiscodave
 
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Reply Mon 26 Jun, 2017 02:08 pm
@maxdancona,
Yes. Next question.
maxdancona
 
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Reply Mon 26 Jun, 2017 02:20 pm
@celebritydiscodave,
So why can you accept pure homosexuals (men who love only men) but not pure heterosexuals (men who love only women)?

I don't see how that makes any sense. I am a pure heterosexual, I think we have as much right to be accepted as anyone else.
vikorr
 
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Reply Mon 26 Jun, 2017 04:31 pm
@maxdancona,
You had two questions with different perspectives. Which one did he answer yes to?
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celebritydiscodave
 
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Reply Tue 27 Jun, 2017 04:05 pm
@maxdancona,
The definition of homosexual/heterosexual is not simply love for your fellow gender, it includes sex, remember? I do n`t know whether or not it`s possible that some of us that can feel love for the opposite gender cannot feel love for members of like gender, and no matter what the circumstance. I doubt we`ll ever have much information on that, more especially as love can be a matter of interpretation.
vikorr
 
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Reply Tue 27 Jun, 2017 08:37 pm
@celebritydiscodave,
As I doubt Max meant that a son who loves his father, or a guy who loves his friends, is a homosexual - it seems obvious he meant love as in sexually attracted to.
maxdancona
 
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Reply Tue 27 Jun, 2017 08:46 pm
@vikorr,
Thank you vikorr. Yes, you are right.

I am a pure heterosexual meaning that I only feel sexual attraction toward women. I would assume that purely homosexual men would only feel sexual attraction toward men. Questioning someone's purity seems rude (and in the case of homosexual men is historically troubling).

Love felt for family, tacos and dogs is a completely different thing.
 

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