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I need help figuring out the signature of my Painting.

 
 
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Wed 30 Mar, 2016 06:31 am
@ckdrew670,
On a whole level about the quality of the OP painting.

I think Reinhardt is off the trail.
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Onetallgentleman
 
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Reply Wed 30 Mar, 2016 11:08 am
@bobsal u1553115,
http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h336/OneTallGentleman/Painting10_zpsxd9vdxgj.jpeg

http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h336/OneTallGentleman/Painting11_zpseuq6k5lx.jpeg

http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h336/OneTallGentleman/Painting12_zps3wsfyngp.jpeg

http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h336/OneTallGentleman/Painting13_zpsd90cdtra.jpeg

http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h336/OneTallGentleman/Painting14_zpsd5xv0mug.jpeg

I think the idea of donating art supplies is a great idea.

bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Wed 30 Mar, 2016 09:51 pm
@Onetallgentleman,
Good stuff!! Give me till tomorrow.
Onetallgentleman
 
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Reply Wed 30 Mar, 2016 10:53 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
Thanks so much...
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 30 Mar, 2016 11:40 pm
@Onetallgentleman,
According to the red label, it was sold for 140 Deutschmark by the antique dealers ??? in Verden (Between 1962 and 1993 due to the postal code.)

And someone with the initials "B.N." bought it (green label).

It looks it has been an auction.
My first idea was that 'Sabatier' had ealt this painting. But it's too low priced for them, and they don't do auctions (and din't, I think).
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 31 Mar, 2016 12:48 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Sorry for the above typos.

I can't get the signature, but this kind of painting was very popular in the 50's and 60's of last century. (And sold in that mentioned price range of +/-140 DM)
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Onetallgentleman
 
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Reply Thu 31 Mar, 2016 01:55 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Is it possible that they marked the price lower in order for the buyer to pay less tax? Do you have an idea how old my painting is (This will help me figure out the Original Cost, using an Inflation Calculator)

Thanks
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 31 Mar, 2016 02:39 am
@Onetallgentleman,
Onetallgentleman wrote:
Is it possible that they marked the price lower in order for the buyer to pay less tax?
No. (Well, everything is possible.) Prices, however, are here for any buyer of any product as labelled = nothing is added.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 31 Mar, 2016 02:42 am
@Onetallgentleman,
Onetallgentleman wrote:
Do you have an idea how old my painting is (This will help me figure out the Original Cost, using an Inflation Calculator)
Not at all. As said, this kind of painting was very popular in the 50's and 60's here in Germany. (And still is with certain customers).
140 DM would have been the price for a better painting in the 1960's, for a lower average one in the 1980's. (The period, it was sold)
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 31 Mar, 2016 02:45 am
@Onetallgentleman,
Onetallgentleman wrote:
This will help me figure out the Original Cost, using an Inflation Calculator)
You only can compare the price with artwork sold here in Germany - transforming Marks to Dollars will give a wrong picture. (Today, it would be 70€/$80)
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saab
 
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Reply Thu 31 Mar, 2016 04:06 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Why should the buyer pay less taxes?
I thought it is usually a seller - when the sum is very high - who has to pay taxes.
As far as I know you usually do not pay taxes on things you buy. You can deduct the amount from the taxes if it has to do with your work/ houseimproving and similar things.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 31 Mar, 2016 04:58 am
@saab,
saab wrote:
Why should the buyer pay less taxes?
I didn't want to indicate such at all - sorry that my response wasn't clear enough.
saab
 
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Reply Thu 31 Mar, 2016 06:06 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Your response was clear enough - it was the question by OP which I did not understand.
Onetallgentleman
 
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Reply Thu 31 Mar, 2016 12:48 pm
@saab,
Who is "OP"?
ossobuco
 
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Reply Thu 31 Mar, 2016 12:52 pm
@Onetallgentleman,
Opening poster (Person who started the thread)
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Fri 1 Apr, 2016 06:36 am
The 'duh' moment: contact the auction house and give them the information on the tags.
Onetallgentleman
 
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Reply Fri 1 Apr, 2016 07:52 am
@bobsal u1553115,
All I can figure out, is the name on the top of the pink label which looks like Labitos Acquisition. I also searched Google for a Auction in Verden/Aller and all I came up with is Horse Auctions.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 1 Apr, 2016 08:23 am
@Onetallgentleman,
Onetallgentleman wrote:
All I can figure out, is the name on the top of the pink label which looks like Labitos Acquisition.
You mean that?http://i67.tinypic.com/sf7zvn.jpg
The last definitely is "Antiquitäten". And I read the first as "Sabatier".
Certainly you have a better view at the original than I have via the pic.

Onetallgentleman wrote:
I also searched Google for a Auction in Verden/Aller and all I came up with is Horse Auctions.

Due to the (fixed) price label, I think it could have been sold at a regular art and antique dealer's.
Thus, I already guessed earlier, it could be Sabatier.
But again, I only have to rely on the photo.
Onetallgentleman
 
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Reply Fri 1 Apr, 2016 08:52 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Mr. Hinteler,
I will try to get a better picture posted with a better Camera. I'm just trying to find the range of years it was possibly made so I can have an idea on it's value. I do differently agree with you on the painting being sold at a regular art and antique dealer. I will see if I can find anything on Sabatier Antiquitäten.

Thanks,
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Onetallgentleman
 
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Reply Fri 1 Apr, 2016 08:58 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Mr. Hinteler,
I just found Sabatier Antiquitäten

http://www.landkreis-verden-navigator.de/inhaltsverzeichnis/details/poi-907000594-20680-Sabatier_Antiquitaeten.html

http://shop.sabatier.cc/

Does this look correct ?

Dan
 

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