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Brexit. Why do Brits want Out of the EU?

 
 
saab
 
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Mon 19 Sep, 2016 02:31 am
@saab,
It should be:
I do not think one did that a couple of years ago.
Walter Hinteler
 
  1  
Mon 19 Sep, 2016 03:23 am
@saab,
saab wrote:
Insults and hate crimes existed also before the Brexit and not just in UK, but in almost every country in EU.
I don't doubt that at all, but it wasn't the topic of that report.
Besides that, the significant serious crimes (like murder) against EU-citizens actually really have been noted in the UK only after the Brexit-vote.

Some of the Leave-campaign are denying that: Tory Leave campaigner denies Brexit caused hate crime increase
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Mon 19 Sep, 2016 04:44 am
@saab,
It hasn't been reported to but by the embassies in Britain:
Quote:
European embassies in Britain have logged dozens of incidents of suspected hate crime and abuse against their citizens since the vote to leave the European Union

saab wrote:
I do not think one did that a couple of years ago.
I do think that any embassy (and consulate) in every country takes care of what is done there to their citizens, not only since decades but since centuries.
saab
 
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Mon 19 Sep, 2016 06:02 am
@Walter Hinteler,
OK it has been reported by and not to the embassies in Britain.
The embassies can only report what it has been told to them.
If a Swede in Germany - which has happened - was told to go back to where she came from - do you really think it was reported to the embassy or that someone from the consulte or embassy would do anything ?
Embassies can only report was has come to their ears and eyes thro media and personal telling.

Of course there has been more hate crime after Brexit as a certain type of people thought that Brexit would give them the right to behave as badly as they do.
Hate crimes have increased in EU and if the politicians do not do something really serious it will get worse and worse.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Mon 19 Sep, 2016 07:03 am
@saab,
saab wrote:
Embassies can only report was has come to their ears and eyes thro media and personal telling.
I didn't intend to have said something different (Usually, they've a department for such).
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Tue 20 Sep, 2016 12:39 am
Which countries should we focus on for trade deals?
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The two sides of the EU referendum debate prioritise a trade deal with the EU very differently. For Remain voters, a deal with the EU is an absolute top priority for 62%, topping their list. For Leave voters, on the other hand, the EU doesn’t even make the top five. Just 23% of Leave voters think that a deal with the EU is top priority, making it seventh overall on their list.

http://i67.tinypic.com/2mnptgl.jpg

Surprisingly, the country that the most Leave voters want to do a deal with is Australia (47%). By contrast, only 26% of Remain voters thought that Australia was a top priority, placing it sixth overall on their list.

Australia accounts for 1.6% of UK exports; the EU for 44%.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Tue 20 Sep, 2016 07:36 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Brexit: 5,000 financial services firms 'at risk' if UK leaves Single Market
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More than 5,000 financial services firms are "at risk” if Britain leaves the Single Market after Brexit, a senior Conservative MP has warned.

Andrew Tyrie, the chairman of the Treasury Select Committee, revealed the scale of the threat if the City loses the right to operate across the 27 remaining members of the EU – so-called “passporting”.

A total of 5,476 UK-registered firms hold at least one passport to do business in another member state of the EU or the wider European Economic Area (EEA).

And a further 8,008 firms, registered in other EU or European Economic Area (EEA) member states, hold passports to do business in the UK, information from the Financial Conduct Authority (FCA) revealed.

It is the first time that the number of companies that will be hit by a “hard Brexit” option – favoured by some leading Conservative Eurosceptics – has been set out.

... ... ...
ehBeth
 
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Tue 20 Sep, 2016 09:59 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Two of my former employers in financial services (one is the largest globally in its field) are actively making plans to move their European offices out of London - looking for properties on the continent.
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High Strangeness
 
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Tue 20 Sep, 2016 06:09 pm
I voted Brexit and now we're out of the wretched EU..Smile
As Don Trump said- "I think it's great, they've got their country back"
It created such a swell of national pride that the UK went on to win 27 gold medals at the Rio Olympics, more than any other country except the USA (46 golds).
Walter Hinteler
 
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Thu 22 Sep, 2016 09:16 am
Swiss compromise over free movement may deal blow to UK hopes

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The Swiss parliament has largely caved in to EU intransigence on free movement in a decision that could deal a blow to British government hopes of being able to both control immigration and retain enhanced single market access after Brexit.

Swiss MPs approved legislation on Wednesday that would promote some local preference in job hires, a modest compromise they hope will allow vital economic relations with the bloc to be preserved following a 2014 referendum vote to cap EU immigration.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Thu 22 Sep, 2016 09:29 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Several (aviation) news-sites report that Easyjet will buy (partly) the German airline TUIfly ...
The British airline wanted to prevent loosing flight connections and businesses after the Brexit it is said. (TUIfly owns 41 planes, Easyjet more than 250.) (Source)

And British universities are drawing up plans to open branches inside the European Union in an effort to soften the blow of Britain’s exit, as they struggle to navigate new challenges in regulation and funding. (Source)
Walter Hinteler
 
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Thu 22 Sep, 2016 11:07 am
@Walter Hinteler,
And Lloyds of London, the world’s oldest insurance market, plans to protect its business from the impact of Brexit and considers opening EU subsidiaries. (Source)
Walter Hinteler
 
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Thu 22 Sep, 2016 12:34 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Seems that the start of the Brxit talks (= triggering article 50) will really not begin before "early 2017": Boris Johnson says UK aims to start Brexit talks with EU in early 2017
saab
 
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Fri 23 Sep, 2016 01:30 am
@Walter Hinteler,

EU states set to veto any Brexit deal threatening free movement
Walter Hinteler
 
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Fri 23 Sep, 2016 02:02 am
@saab,
saab wrote:
EU states set to veto any Brexit deal threatening free movement
Well that's one of the fundamental principles - I've gave links referring to this already months ago.
saab
 
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Fri 23 Sep, 2016 02:24 am
@Walter Hinteler,
I am very sorry, that I by mistake came up with a link that you already months ago referred to.
Please forgive a not so fast thinking Swede - and thank you so much for pointing out something you told us months ago. I love to be remaineded of my forgetfullness.
roger
 
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Fri 23 Sep, 2016 02:35 am
@saab,
Me too. Sure I do.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Fri 23 Sep, 2016 02:37 am
@saab,
saab wrote:
I am very sorry, that I by mistake came up with a link that you already months ago referred to.
I didn't intend to nor actually say that I referred to your link!
The four core principles of the EU have been a topic all the time.
(The Swiss think that they solved this problem - see above.)
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Fri 23 Sep, 2016 02:42 am
Brexit won because those who opposed it did not address its core philosophy
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As a European who likes the idea of a converging Europe, I would have much preferred that the British remain in the EU. But perhaps Brexit is not so bad for the European project in the long run, even if nobody will say it out loud: European integration has long been blocked precisely by the British, and going forward without the UK might be better. Nobody on the continent wanted the UK to leave, but if that is the result, maybe the European journey can go ahead, without holdups at every turn. The UK can stay in touch at the pace it feels comfortable with.

When it comes to science, Brexit does not seem to me to be a catastrophe: scientists have never cared about political borders anyway. Still, it seems clear to me that the UK had everything to lose and nothing to gain from leaving. So why leave? Why did a country that was meant to be quintessentially reasonable vote so clearly against its own interest? Sure, internal class issues and power struggles played a part, but wasn’t this supposed to be a practical place where people would not allow such things to prevail over concrete interests? Wasn’t this the nation that not long ago ruled the planet by outsmarting everyone else?
[...]
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contrex
 
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Fri 23 Sep, 2016 02:42 am
I don't know if anyone has mentioned this - Sir Alan Duncan, former backbench Tory MP, now a minister, has said that Boris didn't want the Leave campaign to win, he wanted them to lose narrowly so that he would be suitably placed to be Cameron's heir apparent. This would explain his poleaxed expression when he heard the result.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37439890



 

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