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Brexit. Why do Brits want Out of the EU?

 
 
Walter Hinteler
 
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Mon 1 Apr, 2019 06:04 am
@Olivier5,
Can well be so, especially since the transports from Britain to Australia on such cheap tickets have been very uncomfortable until now.

https://i.imgur.com/MfjwfO2.jpg

tsarstepan
 
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Mon 1 Apr, 2019 08:13 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:

Today, only today on April 1, the Australian airline Webjet claimed it had launched a $1 Brexit Flash Sale on flights from the UK to the Australia.

April Fools ... does exist outside of the US right?
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georgeob1
 
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Mon 1 Apr, 2019 08:15 am
@Walter Hinteler,
"Transportation" (to Australia's Van Diemen's land) as Tasmania was called then, was the standard British punishment for unruly Irishmen in the late 18th and early 19th centuries . Walter has provided us with a sketch of the shipboard conditions - those in the destination was no better and survival rates were low.)

France operated similar prisons in French Guiana for long afterwards.

That said, it appears to me that you both are overcompensating a bit for the perceived rejection of the British in the current matter. They may simply prefer to govern themselves - it's not an uncommon thing in history.
Olivier5
 
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Mon 1 Apr, 2019 08:29 am
@georgeob1,
Another French equivalent was Nouvelle Caledonie, a penal colony from 1864 to 1897.

Mais tout ça c'est fini...

Walter Hinteler
 
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Mon 1 Apr, 2019 08:30 am
@georgeob1,
Well, I'd though, since it's April Fools Day and I'm no Microsoft employees ...

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Walter Hinteler
 
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Mon 1 Apr, 2019 08:35 am
@Olivier5,
Bagne de Cayenne ("Devils Island") Guyane, famous at least since the imprisonment of Dreyfus there.
Olivier5
 
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Mon 1 Apr, 2019 08:36 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Yep. I suppose you've seen Papillon.
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georgeob1
 
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Mon 1 Apr, 2019 08:48 am
@Olivier5,
Thanks. I wasn't aware of that. Once on a long West Pac deployment, as we were enroute back from Sydney, on a routine flight I found myself near New Caledonia. It's a green and fairly empty place except for a city on a narrow peninsula on the southwest corner of the island. However to the east there are about three other fairly large islands, the northernmost of which I found to be breathtakingly beautiful - a large lagoon, beautiful rugged hills and beaches, etc. Hard to forget.
Olivier5
 
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Mon 1 Apr, 2019 09:02 am
@georgeob1,
My sister-in-law lives there, we visited them for holidays last summer... Very nice, especially the Kanak parts I rush to say (I have little patience for French colonials).
georgeob1
 
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Mon 1 Apr, 2019 09:23 am
@Olivier5,
Olivier5 wrote:

(I have little patience for French colonials).


Why ? My impression is they're a rugged, enduring lot. One can see that in Quebec and, of course, we owe our Cajun culture in Louisiana to French former inhabitants of the Maritime areas of Quebec, (mostly Nova Scotia, as the British renamed it ) who were forcibly removed to Louisiana by the then new British occupiers.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Mon 1 Apr, 2019 10:05 am
Back to the usual Brexit business ...

A few minutes ago, John Bercow, the Speaker, announces he has selected four amendments:

C - Ken Clarke’s for a customs union On 27 March, MPs voted against this option by 271 t0 265.
D - Nick Boles’ for common market 2.0 (On 27 March, MPs voted against this option by 283 to 189),
E - Peter Kyle’s for a confirmatory public vote (On 27 March, MPs voted against this option by 295 to 268),
G - Joanna Cherry’s for revoking article 50 in the face of no-deal Brexit (On 27 March, MPs voted against this option by 293 to 184).
Olivier5
 
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Mon 1 Apr, 2019 10:22 am
@georgeob1,
Quote:
My impression is they're a rugged, enduring lot.

Well, there's several types. I liked the bushmen alright, with a culture centred on extensive cattle raising not unlike the US yee-haw culture. We visited a rural fair, complete with rodeo competition and stetson hats, it was a lot of fun and the steaks were good. But there's also the urban type you see in Noumea... There was something "franchouillard" there, something narrow-mindedly Franco-French in spite (or because of) the distance from France, that I didn't like. It's hard to explain. I got the same feeling in Abidjan.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Mon 1 Apr, 2019 11:41 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Officials have been given the green light to begin preparations for European elections in May as a “contingency” measure, the Press Association reports. David Lidington, effectively the deputy prime minister, said returning officers would be reimbursed by Whitehall for “reasonable” expenses incurred to prepare for the May 23 poll, which takes place almost three years after the UK voted to leave the European Union.
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Olivier5
 
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Mon 1 Apr, 2019 12:08 pm
Quote:
April Fool's jokes banned amid fear of panic buying over Brexit
1 APRIL 2019

British April Fool's jokes have been banned this year under an archaic parliamentary order, amid warnings the public can no longer tell the difference between reality and farce. 

The statute from 1653 states that the issuing of false reports is strictly prohibited and punishable by the splitting of an offender’s ribs.

Officials in the Cabinet Office have taken the unusual step of asking media outlets to refrain from publishing the traditional stories on April 1 in case they trigger panic buying or spark riots.

The original statute was imposed by Oliver Cromwell when he became convinced that the public's mocking of his warts was undermining attempts to crush royalists after the civil war.

The measure was technically never revoked or overtaken in the statute books, and has now been revived by Cabinet Office Minister Lord Japes under a statutory instrument of the EU Withdrawal Act, the emergency legislation that underpins EU exit.

It comes after reports that in a no-deal scenario Britons could run short of toilet paper, will be stopped from taking their pets on holiday, or buy bottled drinking water in shops.

In a statement last night, the Cabinet Office warned that April Fool's pranks were now seen as a serious threat to the Government's attempts to maintain calm amid the Brexit crisis.

April 1 was due to be the first full business day in Britain following a scheduled Brexit on March 29.

Ali Ploorf, a spokesman for the Cabinet Office, said: “The whole country is on a Code Red for April 1. No one knows what’s real and what’s a joke any more.

“Imagine if some joker goes around a Waitrose in Dover shouting ‘There’s no milk! There’s no avocado!’ It will be pandemonium. So from now on any tomfoolery like this is banned.

“Our message to the public is this: if you hear a spine-tingling warning on the radio about Brexit and leaving without a deal, it’s not a joke - it’s Government policy.”

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/03/31/april-fools-jokes-banned-amid-fear-panic-buying-brexit/
Walter Hinteler
 
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Mon 1 Apr, 2019 12:38 pm
@Olivier5,

Quote:
When you put your deal through three times and colleagues and others have not supported it, but you still want to honour the referendum result itself, you still want to get out of Europe, then something small has to give.

In this case it probably is going to end up being the customs union.
Defence minister Tobias Ellwood on Channel 4 News as quoted by the Guardian's blog
Walter Hinteler
 
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Mon 1 Apr, 2019 01:12 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
MPs are now voting on the four propositions.
Olivier5
 
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Mon 1 Apr, 2019 01:13 pm
@Olivier5,
Just realized that the name of the Cabinet spokesman, Ali Ploorf, is an anagram.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Mon 1 Apr, 2019 01:31 pm
@Olivier5,
https://i.imgur.com/y5iJOwhl.jpg

Walter Hinteler
 
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Mon 1 Apr, 2019 01:42 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Results of indicative votes due at 10.30pm, Commons says

https://i.imgur.com/p94q59w.jpg

Too late for me.
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Olivier5
 
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Mon 1 Apr, 2019 01:58 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Calais anglaise: la statue de Churchill rendue aux Anglais
1er avril 2019

La ville de Calais doit redevenir anglaise, après la découverte d'un traité entre les royaumes de France et d'Angleterre datant de la guerre de 100 ans.

D’ici un an, le gouvernement britannique veut que tous les Calaisiens, y compris les Calaisiens expatriés, sachent parler la langue de Shakespeare. Pour y parvenir, l’école des langues est réquisitionnée « immediately ». En avril 2020, « les Calaisiens passeront des tests pour évaluer leur niveau de maîtrise de la langue et leurs connaissances de la culture anglaise. » [...]

La statue De Gaulle-Churchill scindée en deux

Pour marquer le coup et entamer « de bonnes relations fondées sur le partage », les Anglais ont obtenu de pouvoir récupérer la moitié de la statue De Gaulle-Churchill du parc Richelieu afin de l’installer dans une rue de Londres.

 

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