Brexit. Why do Brits want Out of the EU?

Article 50 is written in the EU Constitution, but not written in stone.

If the UK scraps the whole brexit idea at this point in time, their credibility and standing in the EU will remain severely damaged. They won't regain the position they had before the referendum. So that route implies the UK swalowing its national pride for years if not decades.

Article 50 is written in the EU Constitution, but not written in stone. Surely there is an amendment process that can be employed if enough members so desire it.

I don't deride the British people. Why say that to me?

Besides which, there is an alternative where the Brexit takes place, but enough trade agreements are made so in practical terms, it is as if they never left at all.

Meantime, anyone heard how Lordyaswas is doing? I remember he left a2k in the middle of arguing about Brexit (he was pro back then). Whatever his views, I'm hoping he's ok.

Brexit might never happen, senior Liberal Democrat MP Sir Vince Cable has suggested.

Mr Cable, who is currently the only candidate to be his party’s next leader, said a second referendum could see the initial Leave vote overturned.

“I’m beginning to think that Brexit may never happen,” he told the BBC’s Andrew Marr Show. “The problems are so enormous, the divisions within the two major parties are so enormous, I can see a scenario in which this doesn’t happen.

“Our policy of having a second referendum, which didn’t really cut through in the general election, is designed to give a way out when it becomes clear that Brexit is potentially disastrous."

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Brexit might never happen, senior Liberal Democrat MP Sir Vince Cable has suggested.

I am a member of Bristol For Europe which has thousands of members. My local MP, a Remain supporter, had her majority increased to an amazing 16,000 at the General Election. This was after on 27 January 2017 she had stated that she would vote against triggering Article 50, despite being a whip herself and Labour imposing a three line whip to vote for the Government motion.

I have just read that Momentum are planning to try to get here deselected her because

Whatever the outcome, it'll involve pretty humoungous waste, generated by a penny wise pound stupid approach to international relations.

David Lidington, the Justice Secretary and Lord Chancellor, said even a “big new trade deal” with the US would not replace the benefits of being in the EU single market and that deals with other countries would be needed too.

“It wouldn’t be enough on its own, no”, he told the BBC’s Andrew Marr Show. “But it would be a very good thing to have, as would trade deals with the emerging economies of Asia and Latin America.”

The Justice Secretary said Brexit would give the UK the “flexibility’ to make new trade deals with other countries.

“One of the frustrations sometimes about being part of the EU is that, while the mass of the EU gives it leverage in international trade, it moves sometimes at a tortoise-like pace because all the member states have to agree a common negotiation position,” he said.

“Having the nimbleness and the flexibility [after Brexit], we’ll still be the fifth or sixth biggest economy in the world, that does give us some opportunities.”