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Brexit. Why do Brits want Out of the EU?

 
 
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 16 May, 2016 06:06 am
@Setanta,
Many if not most German civil servants working with the EU just changed from German offices to those in the EU, for better pay. And they get promoted faster as well.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 16 May, 2016 06:08 am
@Setanta,
In Germany, "Bürokrat" is negative since that word entered the German language some hundred years ago.
Setanta
 
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Reply Mon 16 May, 2016 06:08 am
Do they have access to exclusive shops and catered lunches of nouvelle cuisine? Nice gig, if you can get it . . .
saab
 
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Reply Mon 16 May, 2016 06:25 am
I
Then we have Jean Claude Juncker
In early November 2014, just days after becoming head of the commission, Juncker was hit by media disclosures—derived from a document leak known as LuxLeaks—that Luxembourg under his premiership had turned into a major European centre of corporate tax avoidance. With the aid of the Luxembourg government, companies transferred tax liability for many billions of euros to Luxembourg, where the income was taxed at a fraction of 1%. Juncker, who in a speech in Brussels in July 2014 promised to "try to put some morality, some ethics, into the European tax landscape", was sharply criticized following the leaks. A subsequent motion of censure in the European parliament was brought against Juncker over his role in the tax avoidance schemes. The motion was defeated by a large majority.

This of course meant that the rest of the EU countries lost lots of taxes to little Luxembourg, money that easely could have been used in a national country instead of in Luxembourg. On top of it Sweden pays money to EU
31 billion 2016 and will get back 13 billion. That is a minus of 18 billion which Sweden really could need for schools, hospitals, refugees and much more.
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saab
 
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Reply Mon 16 May, 2016 06:29 am
@Setanta,
They can buy alcohol, cigarettes and cars cheaper than in the homeland - guess depending on which country they come from. It does not pay to take it back to Denmark as there at least used to be a high tax on the car.
They pay less taxes than in their homecountry - also depends on which country they come from. I can only speak for Scandinavia.
The housing is also rather fine. A large nice villa for a single man.
The ones I know got a fine job afterwards back home in Denmark.
saab
 
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Reply Mon 16 May, 2016 06:33 am
@saab,
It is 31 billion crowns
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 16 May, 2016 06:48 am
@saab,
Well, many normal Germans buy their cars via Belgium as well. As a former Germen public employee (not civil servant!) I pay less car insurence than others The German civil servants in the EU argue that they get better paid because they have less privileges but higher expenses than here... which is only partly true.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 16 May, 2016 08:01 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Wasn't at home when posting previously.

According to an old encyclopaedia ("Meyers Conversationslexikon",1894) a 'bureaucrat' is "the name of a short-sighted and narrow-minded official, still often to found in police states".
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 16 May, 2016 08:14 am
@Setanta,
The EU-canteen in Luxembourg (Beech) was closed (or still is) ... because it was ways below Luxembourg's national standard. (Before, it was subsidised by the Luxembourg state, because to quality of the food was so bad due to limited budget.) EU-employees and civil servants in Luxembourg were advised to use "Auchan cafeterias, Coyote Café and other nearby places to go to to eat and drink".

Our former MEP, with whom I'm acquainted, usually went for lunch to one of the nearby supermarkets' restaurants: cheaper and better. [Actually, I7we alway get our meals in such restaurants when being in France, those by Casino normally are good, Leclerc's okay, Auchan's excellent.]
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saab
 
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Reply Mon 16 May, 2016 09:21 am
We have something called bureaucratic Swedish.
Here is a proverb translated into bureaucratic Swedish
savage cats get scratched fur.
Domesticared lactofil creatures of choliric temper has to normaly count on a certain destruction of epitielparts.


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Fil Albuquerque
 
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Reply Mon 16 May, 2016 09:24 am
@saab,
I rather we spoke about holocausts plural. Genocide is not a recent invention. Denying it whatever one we are referring to is idiotic.
I don't forget the Balcans or Ruanda recently, but also the atom bombs over Hiroshima and Nagasaki
saab
 
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Reply Mon 16 May, 2016 09:28 am
@Fil Albuquerque,
and I would also add Stalin and Idi Amin, there are a few more.
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saab
 
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Reply Mon 16 May, 2016 09:54 am
Another one:
The cultural revolution in China - 50 years ago.
Fil Albuquerque
 
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Reply Mon 16 May, 2016 10:11 am
@saab,
That one was big.
I wonder why there is a german bias to speak about genocides ?...
...is it because of their German efficiency ? Honestly wondering...
saab
 
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Reply Mon 16 May, 2016 10:24 am
@Fil Albuquerque,
Personally I do not think that Germans are bias about genocides. They are in a difficult situation as even the third generation feel they have to carry the burden of the sins of their grandparents.
Someone said that the Jews do not want holocaust to be in plural, as a certain group want it to be that they suffered and do not want to be put into one big holocaust group.
If this is a theory or true or just the opinion of one person - please do not ask me .
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 16 May, 2016 10:32 am
Today, Gerard Batten, a Ukip MEP, stepped up to defend Boris Johnson, who on Sunday attracted criticism for likening the EU’s aims to those of Adolf Hitler.
Batten, however, said that Johnson had actually underplayed the connections between the EU and the Nazis, and that the bloc had "closer links" with the fascists than many realized.

See more on his blog: Boris, Hitler and the European Union.

A google search gives enough literature results, wikipedia has a lot of as well.

I just want to comment on the remark that the first president of the European Commission had been "a member of several nominally Nazi professional organizations" and served in Adolf Hitler’s army.
It seems, Batten has no idea of Germany during the Nazi-period. Or he thinks, every person should left Germany.

Making outrageous claims about the German past doesn't actually clarify what the future of the UK outside the EU will look like, I think.
saab
 
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Reply Mon 16 May, 2016 10:54 am
@Walter Hinteler,
I looked up Walter Hallstein, does not seem to be person one in any way has to be ashamed of.
He seemed a better choice than some of them we now have here and there and everywhere.
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Lash
 
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Reply Mon 16 May, 2016 02:47 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Thanks for the breadcrumbs to even more intricacies around Brexit. Feels like much more is at stake with the union than meets the eye.

Walter, thank you for this post.

Going to read back through more of Lordy's posts and the Walter blogspot.
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saab
 
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Reply Tue 17 May, 2016 01:29 am
@Setanta,
Denmark is the country within EU which producers milk products most climate friendly.
The EU commision will now have new climate rules which will take the milk production away from Denmark and to countries where the pollution is much higher.
It looks like Danish agriculture will end as the great looser in the
Game of Climate which starts in Bruxelles now.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 17 May, 2016 01:53 am
@saab,
saab wrote:
The EU commision will now have new climate rules which will take the milk production away from Denmark and to countries where the pollution is much higher.
I don't know how you've come to this conclusion, but you certainly might be correct.

Milking cows will stop here soon - at least for smaller milk farmers: as of today, they get less than 20 cent for a liter, the price in supermarkets is 40 cent/liter.
 

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