Brexit. Why do Brits want Out of the EU?

@Olivier5,

Olivier5 wrote:

Is Saab extreme right???

No, I really didn't want to say such!

@saab,

saab wrote:

Think about all the special treatments EU has asked for over the years.
What about this moving back and forth all the time between Brussels and Strassbourg? How much does cost and think about how much that pollutes the air.

It has historical reasons: the Common Assembly of the European Coal and Steel Community, met in Strasbourg because it could not be accommodated at the seat of the European Coal and Steel Community in Luxembourg.
Thus, later, Luxembourg got a couple of EU-institutions as well ...

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The institutions are not concentrated in a single capital city: instead, their headquarters are spread across four cities, Brussels, Luxembourg, Strasbourg and Frankfurt. The current arrangement was approved in 1992 and attached to the Treaty of Amsterdam.[34] The treaty states that the Commission and Council would be based in Brussels, the Courts in Luxembourg and the Parliament in Strasbourg. However some departments of the Commission and meetings of the Council take place in Luxembourg, while the Parliament has its committees and some sessions in Brussels and its secretariat in Luxembourg. Of the new institutions, the Central Bank is based in Frankfurt[35] while the European Council is based in Brussels (but has some extraordinary meetings elsewhere).[36]
Brussels' hosting of institutions has made it a major centre for the EU. Together with NATO it has attracted more journalists and ambassadors than Washington D.C.[37] However the three-city agreement has been criticised, notably concerning the Parliament due to the large number of people that move between the cities. The European Green Party estimated that the arrangement costs 200 million euro and 20,268 tonnes of carbon dioxide.[38] Brussels is preferred by some due to the presence of other institutions and other groups whereas Strasbourg is supported due to its historical importance to European unity.[39]

Source: wikipedia

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@Walter Hinteler,

I didn't think so. He is just naive. He believes all these politicians who like to blame the EU for everything and nothing.

That's one of the issues with the EU I think: the lack of a true politician on top of it, elected by the people, answering to them, and able to fight for them, including fight back against national governments' propaganda when needed. Instead we have these technocrats which never ever dare to say anything even remotely punchy, so they have allowed national politicians to use them as stress balls.

In politics you can't play Mr Niceguy all the time.

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@ehBeth,

I am NOT a racist and NOT an asskisser, I am NOT spewing hate, I am NOT pro Brexit.
But with pro EU people like you - I sooner or later would be pro EUxit

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@saab,

saab wrote:

i did not say I did not want any warning.

Sorry. I misunderstood what

you wrote:

Really? Children under 8 cannot blow up ballons in the EU without adult supervision

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@Walter Hinteler,

It's economically absurd. Forget Strasbourg. It was a nice symbol but we're beyond symbols. The whole thing is so big now that its governance needs to be simplified. The languages are another big issue. We should select 3 or 4 widely spoken official EU languages and forget the rest. Before Brexit I was all for adopting English as the unique EU officia language but that ain't possible now.

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@saab,

AND I AM NOT RIGHT WINGED
I AM NOT NAIV
I DO NOT BELIEVE ALL POLITICIANS WHO SAY THIS AND THAT
I THINK I GET A RATHER DIFFERENCIATED IMPRESSION AS I HEAR AND READ NEWS FROM UP FIVE COUNTRIES DAILY
AND I HAVE EIGHT FRIENDS AND RELATIVES WHO HAVE BEEN WORKING FOR EU
I HAVE RELATIVES IN GB

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@saab,

You failed to note the racist overtones in the Brexit campaign. That was your basic mistake, me think: assuming good faith from UKIP and co. UKIP are the bad guys.

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@saab,

I am not suggesting you are racist.

I am pointing out/confirming that the British leave campaign - and many of the British leave supporters - were/are racist.

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@Olivier5,

I fully agree.
I've been in Strasbourg quite a lot during the 70's - and in days days, many said there 'let's built some more EU-buildings - then they close us down'.
However, it's not just about those four institutions - look the discussions now about the two EU bodies currently based in London, the European Medicines Agency and the European Banking Authority - almost all member states have notified the commission of their interest in taking one of the agencies

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@saab,

saab wrote:

But with pro EU people like you

I am not pro EU. At best I could be said to be almost neutral on the subject.

I wasn't for the EU when it was still a concept. The only upside I saw to it was that before I gave up my German citizenship I thought I might use it for employment purposes.

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@Olivier5,

No, I did not, but we Scandinavians saw other things in the Brexit that you did not.

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@saab,

Maybe it's the way I understand what you wrote along the years, but I'm under the impression you are some of the things you are denying being.

Just saying..

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@timur,

timur wrote:

Maybe it's the way I understand what you wrote along the years, but I'm under the impression you are some of the things you are denying being.

Just saying..

Some of the things he says would make Nigel Farage hesitate.

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I have seen it and heard it.
We should help the Brits with Brexit. We should never forget what they have done for us. If it had not been for the British who were the first to fight against Hitler until the Americans also joined in, Europe would have looked different today.
That is one reason why the Danes want a soft Brexit. And never let us forget.
Swedes too, but that is also something else. Swedes are more afraid of conflicts. A hard Brexit would be with more conflicts.
We Scandinavians have more in common with the British than with the Germans.

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@centrox,

Saab is an old lady..

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Some of the things he says would make Nigel Farage hesitate.

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@saab,

saab wrote:

We should never forget what they have done for us. If it had not been for the British who were the first to fight against Hitler until the Americans also joined in, Europe would have looked different today.
That is one reason why the Danes want a soft Brexit. And never let us forget.
Swedes too, but that is also something else. Swedes are more afraid of conflicts. A hard Brexit would be with more conflicts.
We Scandinavians have more in common with the British than with the Germans.

I think, there are lot of citizens from various EU-countries who nothing in common with country-x but more with country-y.

But I don't think that the EU is an acknowledgement for the British involvement in freeing Europe from the Nazis.

On the other hand - I don't think it matters a lot if Danes, Swedes or any other nationalities want a soft or hard Brexit: that's a decision made by Her Majesty's Government in the UK.

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@Walter Hinteler,

I aagree with you - it just how some people see things. I myself was suprised when I a couple of times have seen someone connect Brexit with what British people did a couple of generations ago.

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@saab,

saab wrote:

the British who were the first to fight against Hitler

Er, the Poles?

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