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Brexit. Why do Brits want Out of the EU?

 
 
Walter Hinteler
 
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Sun 16 Apr, 2017 05:51 am
@saab,
saab wrote:
Germans tend to "these are the rules and regulations - nothing to discuss"
Swedes tend to "Oh we have to have a commity which will look into things, but first we need a commity to somehow look into whom we should get into the commity and we need a commity...........but first of all fairness and equality.
Well, obviously our understanding of legal affairs and laws differs.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Sun 16 Apr, 2017 05:59 am
@saab,
From the Independent on Sunday:British voters discriminate against candidates with foreign-sounding or ethnic minority names, study finds
Quote:
British voters are biased against political candidates with foreign or ethnic-minority sounding names, an academic study analysing nearly 40 years of election results has found.
[...]
The study, published in the April 2017 British Journal of Political Science this month after being peer-reviewed, categorised names into “British” sounding, “European” sounding, and “non-European” sounding.
[...]
The study found an average vote share penalty of over 5 per cent for foreign names. It identified a steady fall in the intensity of discrimination against non-European names from the 1970s until 2001, after which it rose again to its previous level. The level of discrimination against continental European names has been steadily rising, however, and is currently at its highest level recorded in the data.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Sun 16 Apr, 2017 06:23 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Brexit Secretary David Davis, who campaigned for Leave during the referendum, has been attacked for pursing a hard Brexit – meaning sacrificing access to the single market to end freedom of movement – without a clear plan for an alternative deal in place.

But a couple of years ago (in 2012), he hailed the EU as a ‘success’ and said staying in the customs union would spare British businesses from punitive tariffs: The day Brexit Secretary praised the EU's single market: David Davis is 'taken hostage by hard Right' for saying we should stay in the customs union
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saab
 
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Sun 16 Apr, 2017 07:03 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Are you Germans any better? Is it not more difficult for person with an ethnical not correct name to get a job?
In Sweden many have changed the applications to have no name, but a number so that it is not known where the applicants come from. The same happened in Sweden, that a person with a other ethnical name had difficultires to get a job. Swedes used to be a fair people, but things are changing and lot is blamed on EU.
Both Britain and Sweden do not require photos at an application. Even if you are a native, your looks might not please the person hiring you.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Sun 16 Apr, 2017 07:38 am
@saab,
saab wrote:
Are you Germans any better? Is it not more difficult for person with an ethnical not correct name to get a job?
The quoted report was about political candidates and that those with European names ...
Where I live persons with British/Welsh/Scottish names have no problems. (David McAllister was the Prime Minister of the state of Lower Saxony, we've two British born councillors here in our town council.)
Walter Hinteler
 
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Sun 16 Apr, 2017 07:42 am
@saab,
saab wrote:
In Sweden many have changed the applications to have no name, but a number so that it is not known where the applicants come from. The same happened in Sweden, that a person with a other ethnical name had difficultires to get a job. Swedes used to be a fair people, but things are changing and lot is blamed on EU.
So it is said in Sweden that someone with a "foreign" name is fault of the EU? (My wife's aunt/uncle and cousins and their children have 'German' names; uncle/aunt emigrated before Sweden became an EU-member. So that perhaps a reason that they were/are active in politics without difficulties)
saab
 
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Sun 16 Apr, 2017 07:43 am
@Walter Hinteler,
A law can be streched or interpertated differently also to be fair to a person.
If you by car hit and injure or kill a person the punishment will be different if you
did it on purpose
drove too fast
were drunk
it was an unavoidable accident
it was to avoid an ever bigger accident
That is how most laws work in most democratic countries.
saab
 
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Sun 16 Apr, 2017 07:54 am
@Walter Hinteler,
You really twist things around.
When in Sweden we talk about "other ethnical background" it is a political correct expression for someone outside of Europe.
It also includes an adopted African whose name is Karl Karlson. This person is of another ethnical background.
That would not include you relatives with a European name.
Many Swedes blame things on EU because they have opened the borders for too many with another ethnical background, who are not refugees.

How can you even get the idea that I came up such stupid statement, that people with a foreign name is fault of EU?
When you twist things around don´t twist so much they make you look like the idiot instead of the person who said something.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Sun 16 Apr, 2017 07:55 am
@saab,
True - that's why so many cases end up at the courts.
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saab
 
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Sun 16 Apr, 2017 08:00 am
@Walter Hinteler,
I should have known that in Germany you are so much more tolerant than the Brits.
I was talking about the young people with an different ethnical background who have to struggle to get a job or get ahead.
And you compare those with some high ranked politicians.
What a dam unfair comparasing.
I
Walter Hinteler
 
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Sun 16 Apr, 2017 08:07 am
@saab,
You responded to my quoted report. And I did so, too. Neither report nor any of my above response are in any way related to " young people with an different ethnical background" - that's a totally different topic.
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McGentrix
 
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Sun 16 Apr, 2017 09:02 am
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Sun 16 Apr, 2017 11:21 am
Theresa May urged to honour climate and wildlife commitments
Quote:
Leading environmental campaigners have warned the government against scaling back on commitments to tackle climate change and end the illegal market in wildlife in order to secure post-Brexit trade deals.

Greenpeace, WWF, Friends of the Earth and high-profile figures including Andy Murray and Will Young are among those who have signed a joint letter to the prime minister urging Theresa May not to engage in an “environmental race to the bottom” after withdrawal from the EU.

The campaigners said they feared international green commitments could be watered down in return for lucrative bilateral trade agreements. The letter said: “We are alarmed by recent media reports suggesting that the UK’s commitments to tackling climate change and ending the illegal wildlife trade could be watered down to secure post-Brexit trade deals.
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A government spokesperson said: “The UK is a global leader in tackling the illegal wildlife trade and a key part of worldwide efforts on climate change, including implementing the commitments made under the Paris agreement. Our commitment to both issues is as strong as ever.

“The government also has a clear ambition to be the first generation to leave the natural environment in a better state than we found it while securing the best deal for the country as we leave the EU.”
georgeob1
 
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Sun 16 Apr, 2017 11:24 am
@Walter Hinteler,
The attack of the snowflakes on Britain. Poor dears.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Sun 16 Apr, 2017 11:46 am
@georgeob1,
georgeob1 wrote:
Poor dears.
You mean deer, I suppose.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Mon 17 Apr, 2017 09:35 am
What Brexit should have taught us about voter manipulation
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The EU referendum was a battle of dishonesty. It was won by the side with the means to distribute the most plausible lies.
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Foofie
 
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Mon 17 Apr, 2017 12:09 pm
@saab,
saab wrote:

Are you Germans any better? Is it not more difficult for person with an ethnical not correct name to get a job?
In Sweden many have changed the applications to have no name, but a number so that it is not known where the applicants come from. The same happened in Sweden, that a person with a other ethnical name had difficultires to get a job. Swedes used to be a fair people, but things are changing and lot is blamed on EU.
Both Britain and Sweden do not require photos at an application. Even if you are a native, your looks might not please the person hiring you.



Are you proving the old adage, "the more things change, the more they stay the same"? Or, "a leopard does not change his spots"?
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Tue 18 Apr, 2017 12:41 am
The British government’s plan to “take back control” of its waters after leaving the EU is about to be challenged by a claim from Denmark that its fishermen have a historical right to access to the seas around Britain dating back to the 1400's.
Denmark to contest UK efforts to 'take back control' of fisheries

Related: Who owns Rockall? The history of the Atlantic dispute between Ireland and the UK
http://i.imgur.com/jKbe5xK.jpg
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Olivier5
 
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Tue 18 Apr, 2017 04:51 am
Does May want to quit?...


Quote:
British prime minister calls for elections in June amid Brexit fallout

British Prime Minister Theresa May called Tuesday for an early election on June 8, saying she needed a fresh mandate to move ahead with Britain’s planned break from the European Union.

The surprise announcement — made outside her office at 10 Downing Street — comes amid political strains over Brexit and moves by Scotland to possible carve its own independent path to remain in the European Union.

“I have concluded the only way to guarantee certainty and stability for the years ahead is to hold this election and seek your support for the decisions I have to make,” she said.

Last month, Britain submitted its formal request to begin E.U. exit negotiations.

Theresa May became prime minister in July last year, shortly after the referendum that set in motion Britain’s E.U. divorce and prompted the resignation of her predecessor, David Cameron.

May also is taking a political gambit.

If her Conservative party wins the snap elections, she will have the mandate to pursue her own agenda as she heads into negotiations as Britain exits the European Union — not the one set out by her predecessor Cameron.

But a loss would throw deep uncertainly into the complex talks ahead between Britain and the other 27 E.U. members, and reflect important shifts in the British sentiment since last year’s referendum.
Lash
 
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Tue 18 Apr, 2017 07:39 am
Watching the rise of a new charismatic leader in France. Frexit? Jean Luc Melenchon isn't the only contender in France who is anti-EU and anti-UN.

http://m.newser.com/story/241414/french-bernie-sanders-rising-in-presidential-election-polls.html

 

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