AN ASSAULT ON SCIENCE

I am also capable of understanding scientific literature

Tell, me Ollie, do you claim to know more than him?

Tell, me Ollie, do you claim to know more than him?

If you're asking about climate change, I can take him any day.

Depends on what. Do you understand the concept of domain of competance?

Got any comment on his allegations about corruption, fraud, and "trilions of dollars," etc.? Wait, he's only a physicist that was a member of American Physical Society for 67 years. What the hell would HE know about APS, eh?

Let me guess, eh? No more than a garbage collector and MUCH LESS than you know, right?

Ask thrice honey, if it's not to hard on you.

The fact that a mixture of air with higher concentrations of CO2 retains more heat has been shown scientifically for over 100 years.

So where does all this putative "settled science" come from? I already cited a peer reviewed paper which examined the data and the math underlying the commonly referred to "97% of all scientists agree" claim. That paper said that, when properly calculated, it was not 97%. It wasn't 10%. It wasn't 5%. It wasn't even 1%. It was less than 1/3 of 1%.

So if Baldimo is right about the effect of CO2 on heat retention being in doubt,

Global warming advocates claim that CO2 rises up in the atmosphere and traps and retains heat. It does the opposite of both claims. My career of using the physics of gas measurement to solve real-world problems at our factories makes it easy for me to see through this junk science....

Proponents point to scientist John Tyndall for postulating what we now call global warming in his 1861 paper published in "Philosophical Transactions."...Tyndall leaps a bit with this concept when he hypothesizes the affect on our atmosphere by stating, "to account for different amounts of heat being preserved to the earth at different times" – which we attribute to global warming.

Yes, some gases absorb heat, but for how long? Gas measurement engineers, who must be correct or buildings can burn, use four aspects of physics to measure gases: Pressure (Boyles Law), Temperature (Charles Law), Super-compressibility and Specific Gravity. Charles Law and Specific Gravity should be at the center of any analysis of Global Warming.

Does carbon dioxide trap and retain heat? No, although it cools more slowly than some other gases, it absorbs some amount of heat and quickly cools the same amount when the heat source is removed. Does it rise up in the atmosphere? No, it does the opposite.

The affect of carbon dioxide on the temperature of our atmosphere is fleeting and inconsequential. Note that during our most dramatic industrial growth from 1950 to 1980, our atmosphere cooled.

By JAMES MOODEY / Laguna Hills resident and author of “Media Canards”

The mechanism by which carbon dioxide traps heat in the atmosphere is commonly referred to as the "greenhouse effect." Stated very simply, carbon dioxide, or CO2, is nearly transparent to the solar radiation emitted from the sun, but partially opaque to the thermal radiation emitted by the earth. As such, it allows incoming solar radiation from the sun to pass through it and warm the earth's surface. The earth's surface, in turn, emits a portion of this energy upwards toward space as longer wavelength or thermal radiation. Some of this thermal radiation is absorbed and re-radiated by the atmosphere's CO2 molecules back toward earth's surface, providing an additional source of heat energy. Without water vapor, CO2, and other radiatively-active trace gases in the air, the planet's average temperature would be about 34°C cooler than it is at present.

The mechanism is named after the effect of solar radiation passing through glass and warming a greenhouse, but the way it retains heat is fundamentally different as a greenhouse works by reducing airflow, isolating the warm air inside the structure so that heat is not lost by convection.

According to this guy, CO2 does not retain or trap heat: