Re: What do want from Israel ?!
ltabib wrote:As you can all see in my profile, I am from Israel.
I am honestly cannot understand what do you argue against Israel and/or against Jews?
Reading this forum and its competitors has brought me to the conclusion that rewritten historical "facts" and false information on current events (a good place to start understanding current events would be at
http://www.debka.com/index.php ) made people announce some absurd notifications.
If you can kindly write one argue at a time (please be kind and summarize your argue, cause although I like to actively participate in the debate, I do work 13 hours a day
), I would glade to answer.
My mother tongue in Hebrew so sorry for any misspelled words
Hey Itabib,
Ma shlemcha? And that just about does it for my transliterated Hebrew.
I appreciate your frustration at the uniformed position that most people have against Israel and the Jews.
The problem is the old saying "don't confuse me with the facts, I've made up my mind."
It is easy to prove that Israel is not "the villain" in this dispute with Palestinians and the Arab world at large, but most people
do not want to learn that.
And, people only go after what they want.
Most people would rather stick with pre-conceptions and misinformation that supports what they want to believe than study the facts and change their mind.
That is human nature.
You can easily prove this by reading Thok's assertation:
Quote:It is Palestinian's land !
In this operation maybe some hundreds,but in total there are many thousands.
You informed him that it was twelve houses. He insists it is hundreds of houses because he is wired to believe that Israel must be wrong.
He will not change and no fact will ever penetrate.
Oddly enough, the United States is also a victim of this "don't confuse me with facts philosophy."
The new "politically correct" philosophy of nations and power is:
Good and Evil are not real. Right and Wrong do not matter.
What matters is who is Strong and who is Weak.
In this philosophy, Strong = Bad and Weak = Good. Therefore if you are Weak, you must be Good and if you are Strong, you must be Bad.
It is a bizarre philosophy, but this dementia has swept the world and millions upon millions believe it.
Therefore, when Israel and / or the Jews were Weak, they were "Good." Now that Israel is "Strong," they are "Bad."
There are other variations of this philosophy such as "Victimhood" which says that "the bad things that I do are the result of me being a victim of someone or something else. It's not my fault."
This then leads to the philosophy of "What have done to make this (bad) person or group of people treat us this way."
Anyway, it just gets sicker and sicker, but it is the path of least resistance and it does not require thinking.
Oy.
The only bright spot is that Death concentrates the mind most wonderfully.
There are also millions of people who have been able to connect the dots between rabid, murdering, death worshipping, suicides who decided to die slaughtering thousands of Americans by flying jets into the Twin Towers and the Pentagon and murdering other Americans in Pennsylvania, and the same sort of Palestinian homicide bombers who enjoy the same sort of death cult.
These people are not as vocal as some who might write on forum boards, but they are out there. And, they are growing with each new atrocity.
It becomes harder to ignore evil when you are a potential target of that evil.
Kol Tuv
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