timberlandko wrote:O'Reilly is not a newscaster, nor are Hannity, Colmes, Rivera, or Susteren. They're commentators, opinion mongers, performers, entertainers, as are Al Franken and Andy Rooney. Of course, I understand that's a difficult distinction for Democrats to grasp.
True they are NOT journalist but they DO proclaim to be. Yes they ARE commentators although they are entertainers as well.
Al Franken is a comedian/commentator
Rooney is a journalist - why Rooney anyway?
As for the conservatives they DO pretend to be journalist. Sustern is a commentator, not a journalist. You seem to be confusing the two.
Some good Fox reporting shown here:
Quote:From the July 15 edition of FOX News Channel's FOX & Friends:
KILMEADE: But Teresa, Teresa Kerry, is also a critic of the president, saying she wouldn't have gone to war the way the president had gone to war and also said that John Edwards is very beautiful and John Kerry, her husband, is very smart. Thanks. What is that? Oh my goodness. That's the -- that's the person introducing me? -- he, he's not a funny Irishman. He's not very good looking, he's smart. There hasn't been a good series of introductions for this family. Am I the only one embarrassed here?
HILL: You keep on mentioning though --
KILMEADE: I'm worried about these two.
Source
Quote:From the July 15 edition of FOX News Channel's Special Report with Brit Hume:
ANGLE: Let me ask you first, in your view was the president right or wrong to pass an opportunity to speak?
WOODSON: He was absolutely correct in passing this up opportunity.
[...]
WOODSON: And his [chairman of the board of the NAACP, Julian Bond] vilification of the president really does a disservice to the organization, forgetting that 83 percent of blacks no longer look to the NAACP for leadership. And I think that ...
ANGLE: Now where does that figure come?
WOODSON: Well, there are some figures -- there are some surveys done when the black community was asked.
Media Matters for America found no evidence of such a poll. A Washington Post poll from October 16, 1996, found that "more than eight in 10 blacks ... said they felt there is a shortage of black leaders who effectively articulate issues that are important to most African Americans" but did not name the NAACP specifically.
On the other hand, polls show that black Americans hold the NAACP in high esteem. For example, a 2003 poll by Black America's Political Action Committee found that 83 percent of African American registered voters view the organization favorably, compared with only 8 percent who view it unfavorably. The same poll also showed that NAACP president and CEO Kweisi Mfume is among black America's most respected leaders: 44 percent of respondents view him favorably, compared with only 6 percent who view him unfavorably.
Media Matters for America invites Woodson to direct us to the poll he cited, in case we missed it.
Also O'Reilly EDITS his reports, and re-records them! So yes I agree he is an entertainer but chances are you ask any of his listerners and they would describe him as a legtimate news anchorman.
Even Brit Hume who is supposdly a "news anchorman" lies, the entire Fox News team could all be catgorized as "entertainers' NONE of them should be referring to themselves as anything but.
