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NASA image: clear/obvious pyramid

 
 
Reply Fri 19 Jun, 2015 11:28 am
Basic Nasa image:
http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl-raw-images/msss/00978/mcam/0978MR0043250040502821E01_DXXX.jpg


https://scontent-dfw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/11057840_10205895086715235_5087153431694724675_n.jpg?oh=6f9d5d77a05958c730ea1640d580cde7&oe=55EE312B


Clearest such image so far.
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maxdancona
 
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Reply Fri 19 Jun, 2015 11:56 am
@gungasnake,
That pyramid must have been built by some very tiny Egyptians.
Foofie
 
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Reply Fri 19 Jun, 2015 12:09 pm
Did we all evolve from tiny martians that were transplanted to Earth? More oxygen here, and we got larger?
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Fri 19 Jun, 2015 12:46 pm
@maxdancona,
may be the tip of a pyramid showing above the ground, who knows, they don't provide any sort of a key to scale. But it is definitely artificial.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Fri 19 Jun, 2015 05:09 pm
I clicked on the link to JPL's photos that Gunga Dim provided, and this is the image that i found:

http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl-raw-images/msss/00978/mcam/0978MR0043250040502821E01_DXXX.jpg

No "pyramids in that image--i wonder if Gunga can explain this discrepancy.
Setanta
 
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Reply Fri 19 Jun, 2015 05:12 pm
If you open Gunga's image in a new tab, you don 't the URL for the JPL photo, you get a URL from Facebook Canada. As so often happens, Gunga has a source who is playing fast and loose with the truth.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Fri 19 Jun, 2015 05:25 pm
When Gunga says it is obviously artificial, he is trying to skew the basis for discussion. These are artifacts of meteor impacts, known as shatter cones:

http://www.meteorimpactonearth.com/Images/Impact-metamorphism_Figure01_v20-01-2011.JPG

http://ase.tufts.edu/cosmos/pictures/Chapter14/Fig14_12.jpg

Shatter cones are quite common on Mars, where the thin atmosphere does not cause meteors to break-up or burn-up before impact with the surface.
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Fri 19 Jun, 2015 09:04 pm
I assume anybody with reasonable intelligence can find the pyramid in question in that original NASA image.

That obviously doesn't include Setanta of course but if anybody who's never given me a reason to put them on ignore needs any sort of a description of where on the NASA image the pyramid is, I'll be happy to provide it.
maxdancona
 
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Reply Fri 19 Jun, 2015 10:22 pm
@gungasnake,
Yeah! They are right next to that herd of camels.
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chai2
 
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Reply Fri 19 Jun, 2015 11:04 pm
@Setanta,
actually set, the little pointy rock is there. Uppper right.

I'm just sayin'
Setanta
 
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Reply Sat 20 Jun, 2015 03:14 am
@chai2,
Actually, Gunga's image is the same photo, doctored . . .

Just sayin'. . .

In the JPL photo, the contrast is not as high, and the colored background is not there to provide contrast. In Gunga's photo, which is the doctored photo, there appears to be a regular step formation, which is the product of pixilation in enlargemnt--that does not appear in the JPL photo.

Look at them again, and compare Gunga's photo to the JPL photo.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Sat 20 Jun, 2015 03:17 am
I think it's hilarious that Gunga claims to have me on ignore, but feels compelled to respond to my criticism.

It ain't ignore, Gunga Dim, if you peek.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Sat 20 Jun, 2015 03:21 am
Have a look at the shadows, too. There is no pyramidal shaped shadow, in either photo.
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rosborne979
 
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Reply Sat 20 Jun, 2015 05:01 am
@gungasnake,
It looks like a pyramid shaped (not even a perfect pyramid) rock to me. Can you prove it's not just a rock (which it clearly appears to be)?

If you can first prove it's not a rock then I will consider other possibilities. But until then; It's a rock.
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Sat 20 Jun, 2015 05:31 am
@rosborne979,
Certainly a strange looking rock...and it does look like a small pyramid...or a square or oblong object with only one end sticking out of the ground.

But to make too much of it is just wishful speculation. (Most of us want something else to be out there!)

As you said...until shown to be otherwise, it should just be considered a rock.

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Setanta
 
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Reply Sat 20 Jun, 2015 05:32 am
I strongly suspect that the tip is a pixelation artifact. Roswell's point is well taken, apply Occam's razor.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 20 Jun, 2015 06:18 am
@Setanta,
I'm sure, it's one of the parts left from the former Maya embassy.
gungasnake
 
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Reply Sat 20 Jun, 2015 06:24 am
The two visible sides are two perfect equilateral triangles. Nature does not do that sort of thing.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Sat 20 Jun, 2015 03:36 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
No doubt, Walter.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Sat 20 Jun, 2015 03:42 pm
So let's recap: Neither the JPL photo, nor the photoshopped image show a pyramid. Only Gunga Dim claims that there is a pyramid, and it's sad to think anyone else here would swallow that on the basis simply of his having said so. No part of the images shows a "perfect" anything. We don't know what the side or sides of the object which are not in the photograph look like--therefore, no one here can say with any authority that it is (or is not) a pyramid.

You know, if scientists never see a black swan, that doesn't entitle them to say that all swans are white. The most they can say is that all the swans they've seen are white. Gunga Dim is attempting to peddle here a claim that he knows what is on the other side of this rock without having seen the other side of this rock.
 

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