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two people that know each other meet. One of them has an object in his/her hand. not crazy expensive but with certain value, not only economical value.

they greet each other by hugging, and when they release their hug, by a clumsy movement the object falls to the ground.

the object is now damaged and has to be repaired. The repairment costs some money. not crazy money but some money.

Who has to pay for this?

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[+7] - Lordyaswas - 06/17/2015The holder. These things are known as accidents. Contrary to popular modern opinion, accidents do occasionally happen.

@camilozk,

The holder.

These things are known as accidents. Contrary to popular modern opinion, accidents do occasionally happen.

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@camilozk,

the person holding the object

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@ehBeth,

Don't you ever, ever hand me your precious Ming bowl.

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@roger,

As soon as I get one ...

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@Lordyaswas,

Lordyaswas wrote:

The holder.

These things are known as accidents. Contrary to popular modern opinion, accidents do occasionally happen.

In the world of insurance the causer of an accident pays the insurance company for the cost incurred. It is called subrogation, I believe.

Accident is just a colloquial term to imply that everyone is not effectively safety conscious, so "it was an accident." Evolution is also based on an accident, implying no one is at fault for all of man's physical/mental/emotional limitations.

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@Foofie,

thanks @Foofie

And in your opinion? Left aside the world of insurance that is out of this hypothetical case?

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@camilozk,

The person who had the object in their hand (owner of the object I would assume) - they should have secured it before hugging. The other person may not even have known there was an object in the hand. But in either case, it is the responsibility of the person holding the object. Unless of course the other person tried to dislodge the object - but that is not the case.

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@camilozk,

camilozk wrote:

so;

two people that know each other meet. One of them has an object in his/her hand. not crazy expensive but with certain value, not only economical value.

they greet each other by hugging, and when they release their hug, by a clumsy movement the object falls to the ground.

the object is now damaged and has to be repaired. The repairment costs some money. not crazy money but some money.

Who has to pay for this?

I don't think it should be demanded by the owner of the item. Perhaps it is on the person as a sign of good gesture to offer to pay for it. However; I think it is the carelessness of the person who owned the item to be clumsy with their "valuable" item by not simply putting it safely away before the hug.

If you are careless with your property you can't complain when accidents happen and expect others to take responsibility for your carelessness.

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@camilozk,

camilozk wrote:

thanks @Foofie

And in your opinion? Left aside the world of insurance that is out of this hypothetical case?

I wasn't there, to see the actual hugging, so I cannot be judgemental. Nor do I know the relationship that correlated to this hug in question. Meaning, a hug that is just dramatic, for affect, is different than a hug that is between two emotionally close indidividuals. That difference could color a resolution, in my opinion. Sort of like acquiescing to someone that just wants to shake hands, because shaking hands is part of one's persona, as opposed to shaking hands in a more formal situation (i.e., concluding an agreement).

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