The Frogs and the fools who hate them

Why don't you **** off, Ionus,

So you have an article (barely readible) about an ad

Maybe the article you posted is just lying or misrepresenting the case.

A country which knows no evil, for sure...

Indeed, although British in history and culture, and headquartered in London. The relevant point being that its audience is international, and that its advertisements are not typically targeted at the average UK consumer.

The point I made at 8.20 AM today (above)

Yes. The Aérospatiale company placed an ad in a business magazine which although edited in London, has an international reach, to say that Exocets were good missiles, and I expect their PR department probably groaned when this happened. I also expect that most British companies would (at least) think of doing a similar thing if they were in that situation and had shareholders baying for action.

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Are you a French lawyer to boldly state that the incident DIDN'T take place or are you just trolling ? I'm telling you he was charged by the Police and was waiting for his trial when he would have to prove he was not guilty of assaulting 4 French men outside a pub that he walked past . The Australian Embassy was involved and they had statements from them as well . If I could find the article I would rub your nose in it .

No article so far. It's innocent until proven guilty in France since 1789.

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The point I made at 8.20 AM today (above)

And you wrote as well that it isn't a newspaper.

The Exocet that struck the Sheffield impacted on the starboard side at deck level 2, travelling through the junior ratings scullery and breaching the Forward Auxiliary Machinery Room/Forward Engine Room bulkhead 2.4 metres (7 ft 10 in) above the waterline, creating a hole in the hull roughly 1.2 by 3 metres (3.9 by 9.8 ft). It appears that the warhead did not explode.[14] Accounts suggest that the initial impact of the missile disabled the ship's electrical distribution systems and breached the pressurised sea water fire main, severely hampering any firefighting response and eventually dooming the ship to be consumed by the fire. The loss of Sheffield was a deep shock to the British public and government.

Some of the crew of Sheffield were of the opinion that the missile exploded, others held the view that it had not. The official Royal Navy Board of Inquiry Report, however, stated that evidence indicates that the warhead did not detonate. During the four and a half days that the ship remained afloat, five salvage inspections were made and a number of photographs were taken. Members of the crew were interviewed, and testimony was given by Exocet specialists (the Royal Navy had 15 surface combat ships armed with Exocets in the Falklands War). There was no evidence of an explosion, although burning propellant from the rocket motor had caused a number of fires, which could not be checked as a fire main had been put out of action.

The Atlantic Conveyor was a container ship that had been hastily converted to an aircraft transport and was carrying helicopters and supplies. The missiles had been fired at a frigate but had been confused by the frigate's defences and instead targeted the Atlantic Conveyor nearby. The Exocets - it is not certain whether the warheads exploded or not - caused a fire in the fuel and ammunition aboard which burnt the ship out. Atlantic Conveyor sank while under tow three days later.


Because there may be some doubt about the efficiency of the missile in some peoples minds, the charming French took out an ad, basically full of boasting and lies, what we have come to expect .
This is a newspaper article on the Ad .
https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1310&dat=19840913&id=86xjAAAAIBAJ&sjid=iuEDAAAAIBAJ&pg=2678,2991396&hl=en

As for corrupt french men...C'est impossible....
http://www.newsweek.com/code-breakers-114221

Neither.

The man was charged by Police and it was to be heard by a Police tribunal . That is a conflict of interest and would not be any where good enough in most democratic countries .

During the Falklands War the French Company that makes the Exocet Missile published a full page ad in British newspapers saying its missiles were working and killing lots of British sailors

There you go then, it was an honest attempt to tell the world that the Exocet is a lovely missile and did indeed kill many British seamen and any attempt to say it didnt work is lies . Ahh... the sensitivity of the collective French....

At the bottom of the court hierarchy are the courts of minor jurisdiction.[4] The Police Court (tribunal de police, also called the Police Tribunal) hears contraventions, minor criminal offenses such as traffic violations, minor assaults, and breaches of the peace.

6. Ongoing reforms
In 2008, President Sarkozy announced plans to further reform and streamline the French judiciary. Among the reforms are plans to reduce the number of courts, move court procedures towards a more adversarial system, and to get rid of the system of avoués in the courts of appeal. This change has not yet been implemented.
One reform recently tried out in a couple of Tribunaux correctionnels (criminal courts) was the introduction of trial by jury, previously limited to the assize courts. Juries in this case were made up of six members of the public, and three magistrates. But in 2013, the socialist administration of François Hollande decided to scrap this reform, claiming the process was expensive, slowed down the judicial procedure, and did not produce any significant change in results.

That is factually false. The Economist is a magazine, its ads are not primarily targeted at British people. And so far we don't even know what the ad said...

You ARE a liar and you are still lying.

Now we also know you are a coward

The French Army Mutinies of 1917 took place amongst the French troops on the Western Front in Northern France. They started just after the disastrous Second Battle of the Aisne, the main action in the Nivelle Offensive in April 1917. General Robert Nivelle had promised a decisive war-ending victory over the Germans in 48 hours; the men were euphoric on entering the battle. The shock of failure soured their mood overnight. They involved, to various degrees, nearly half of the French infantry divisions stationed on the western front. The new commander General Philippe Pétain restored morale by talking to the men, promising no more suicidal attacks, providing rest for exhausted units, home furloughs, and moderate discipline. He held 3400 courts martial; 554 mutineers were sentenced to death but over 90% had their sentences commuted. The mutinies were kept secret from the Germans and their full extent was not revealed until decades later. Gilbert and Bernard find multiple causes:

The immediate cause was the extreme optimism and subsequent disappointment at the Nivelle offensive in the spring of 1917. Other causes were pacificism, stimulated by the Russian Revolution and the trade-union movement, and disappointment at the nonarrival of American troops
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the support of Prime Minister Clemenceau, who told President Woodrow Wilson in June 1917 that France planned, "to wait for the Americans & meanwhile not lose more ... I like Pétain ... just because he won't attack'."

Can the judge in a Police Tribunal be a serving or ex-serving Police Officer if he is a postgraduate from the School of Magistrature ?