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Grammar corrector online? I was shocked by the result:

 
 
Reply Tue 7 Apr, 2015 05:55 am
Corrector or Trouble-maker? See:

http://i58.tinypic.com/20u39c8.jpg

http://www.netarose.com/?gclid=CM2I_fGV4sQCFY6XvQodRo8Aqg
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maxdancona
 
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Reply Tue 7 Apr, 2015 06:18 am
@oristarA,
Grammar correctors are garbage.

There are a couple of reasons for this. The most interesting is that the technology behind grammar correction is surprisingly difficult. Machines, even now, have a very difficult time understanding language in the way that humans understand language. Machines can look for keywords, and they can do some cool tricks to make you think they understand you some of the time. But, they don't understand language.

You can't correct grammar very well if you don't really understand language very well. The classic example is... "Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana." Machines need to know a something about the idiom, and something about bananas and insects to have a chance to parse this correctly.

In short. Don't trust machine grammar correctors.
maxdancona
 
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Reply Tue 7 Apr, 2015 06:20 am
@maxdancona,
Another one of my favorite examples of the difficulty for computers parsing grammar is.... consider these three sentences.

1) The children are ready to eat.
2) The cookies are ready to eat.
3) The chicken is ready to eat.

In the third sentence... is the chicken breathing?
oristarA
 
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Reply Tue 7 Apr, 2015 08:11 am
@maxdancona,
maxdancona wrote:

Another one of my favorite examples of the difficulty for computers parsing grammar is.... consider these three sentences.

1) The children are ready to eat.
2) The cookies are ready to eat.
3) The chicken is ready to eat.

In the third sentence... is the chicken breathing?



I failed to get the nuance.
According to my dictionary, two main definitions for chicken:

1) noun. the flesh of a chicken used for food
2) noun. a domestic fowl bred for flesh or eggs; believed to have been developed from the red jungle fowl.

Def. one is not breathing while two doing. That is why I failed to get the nuance of your humor.

Would you like to explain a bit for me?
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chai2
 
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Reply Tue 7 Apr, 2015 08:46 am
Is the live chicken ready to eat its food?

Is the dead and cooked chicken ready to be eaten?

Cookies never eat anything.

Childen (hopefully) are never eaten.

Chickens can be either.
oristarA
 
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Reply Tue 7 Apr, 2015 09:27 am
@chai2,
chai2 wrote:

Is the live chicken ready to eat its food?

Is the dead and cooked chicken ready to be eaten?

Cookies never eat anything.

Childen (hopefully) are never eaten.

Chickens can be either.


You've further confirmed the question in my previous post, not solved it.
maxdancona
 
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Reply Tue 7 Apr, 2015 01:19 pm
@oristarA,
The third sentence is designed to show the ambiguity of the English language.

When I say "the children are ready to eat" the implication is that it is dinner time, and the children are hungry (i.e. they are prepared to put food into their mouths).

When I say "the cookies are ready to eat" the implication is that I am cooking cookies, and they have now been in the oven enough time (i.e. it is now time to eat these cookies).

When I say "the chicken is ready to eat".... what do you think the implication is?

It could be a live chicken that is hungry (i.e. it is time for me to give the chicken some food).

Or.. it could be a cooked chicken that has been in the oven enough time (i.e. I am now about to sit down and eat it).

The ambiguity is the point.
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