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Ca. drought: classic case of greentards sacrificing others' lives

 
 
Reply Tue 7 Apr, 2015 04:36 am
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/04/06/carly-fiorina-on-the-calif-crisis-thats-a-classic-case-of-liberals-being-willing-to-sacrifice-other-peoples-lives-and-livelihoods/


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Former Hewlett-Packard CEO Carly Fiorina said Monday that California’s water crisis is the result of “liberal environmentalists” who are “willing to sacrifice other people’s lives and livelihoods at the altar of their ideology.”

“With different policies over the last 20 years, all of this could be avoided,” Fiorina said on Glenn Beck’s radio program. “Despite the fact that California has suffered from droughts for millennia, liberal environmentalists have prevented the building of a single new reservoir or a single new water conveyance system over decades during a period in which California’s population has doubled.”

Fiorina said that as a result, 70 percent of California’s rainfall “washes out to sea” year after year.....
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Ionus
 
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Reply Tue 7 Apr, 2015 07:38 am
@gungasnake,
It was for the common good . There was a cockroach somewhere in one of those catchment areas that occurs nowhere else in the world - unless you count similar cockroaches - so it had to be saved . If we wait then nature will probably kill off such small numbers anyway, but the point is that cockroach will still be there for future generations to see and admire . Or not .

But the thing is that greenies will appear to be really nice non-nazis helping THE PLANET! whilst making it difficult for anyone else's genetic materiel . That is why they help animals and not people . By putting animals first, they may even be helped by their fellow humans who might perceive them as lovely people .
gungasnake
 
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Reply Tue 7 Apr, 2015 11:43 am
@Ionus,
Greens are basically Malthusians and idolaters. There is no rational way to reduce the planet's human population to medieval levels nor is that even desirable.
farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 7 Apr, 2015 03:05 pm
@gungasnake,
Ahhh, the simple minds of the simple folk> It always good to have some douche Bag like Glenn Beck to look up to as some hydrologic genius. Why not Lyndon Larouche? Did you give up on his simple tales?

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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Tue 7 Apr, 2015 05:25 pm
@gungasnake,
The courts make it almost impossible to do any big projects in California, and there has been no money to do anything re the water situation. Another problem is that the timeline to do anything useful is measured in decades. The lack of will to do anything is only part of the problem.

On another note I am beginning to see a pattern around the world of water problems needing to get very bad before anyone even start to talk about taking action. Not sure what is up with that, maybe everyone puts the problem away by hoping that the problem solves itself.

What does this mean for the state? I am not sure yet. THe AG industry will increasingly depart. We are going to see the costs of living go even higher with because of water costs and massive fires burning a lot of buildings are almost a sure thing. Will the population growth go negative? Will the economy collapse driven by a real estate value collapse? Ten more years of drought will I think produce those results.
farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 7 Apr, 2015 06:56 pm
@hawkeye10,
ag is mostly depenent on GROUND WATER.
Artificil recharge hd been some big project in Cql for several decades, I wonder what happened to em?
The state began drying up surface waters many may decades ago in the Mulholland years.

many of the aqueducts that were first built were all OPEN top so water would evaporate about hlf its load while it came down the hills.
Itwas really stupid. Calif had thee open aqueduct while in the NY corridor, water from the Catskills nd Adirondacks was instlled in these huge tunnels. Most all of the water which left the source areas got to its destination. Califs problems go back many many decades
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Tue 7 Apr, 2015 09:37 pm
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It’s silly to think that California will shed industry, population and food production even with a prolonged drought. Already there is talk about building desalination plants, and building canals from the northern states and British Columbia. California, with a stand-alone GDP of $2.2 trillion, is able to buy its way out of the water shortage.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/why-the-california-drought-will-be-worse-than-everyone-thinks-2015-04-07?page=2

first off water projects have very long timelines, and second it will make sense for a lot of folks to pick up and move to where the water is. Ag will do this for sure as well as some industry, but people might well do it too. And what happens to land and real estate values? We have already seen how Robin Williams ranch which he thought was worth $85 million can not be moved at a sticker price of $27 million, almost certainly because it does not come with water to turn it into a vineyard. Will homes in CA continue to be worth on average over $400,000???
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Ionus
 
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Reply Tue 7 Apr, 2015 10:19 pm
South East Queensland went through all this . We had some success by interconnecting water supplies to even out variations in rainfall for different areas, we have permanent water restrictions such as not hosing down driveways, and have a half built (stopped because it rained) water desalination plant . The problem with desalination plants is their expense . The problem with dams is the need for a suitable 'water proof' sub soil/rock .

The tendency to store as much as possible has also resulted in a reduction in flood mitigation . Water authorities get sued for not releasing water if it looks like rain and then floods .

As is common in Australia, we went from drought to floods . It seems to be a 10 year cycle though it doesnt always follow La Nina's .
raprap
 
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Reply Tue 7 Apr, 2015 10:24 pm
@hawkeye10,
Ag has a choice. They can recognize crops that aren't as water intensive. Or can be adapted to arid clones. The problem, as far as business is concerned is long term payback and the condition of agriculture is its a long term industry.

Look at what the Jews are doing in Israel. It's a desert and they export fruit with minimal water. Strawberries from sand.

Rap
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Tue 7 Apr, 2015 10:25 pm
@Ionus,
Plus here in America we release water and even knock down dams because the courts say that we are harming the fish.

It is hard to over state just how much our dysfunctional justice system and general inability to prioritize hurts us.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Tue 7 Apr, 2015 10:26 pm
@raprap,
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Look at what the Jews are doing in Israel. It's a desert and they export fruit with minimal water. Strawberries from sand.
When you take most of the water that should be going to the Palestinians you can do just that.
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Ionus
 
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Reply Tue 7 Apr, 2015 11:10 pm
@hawkeye10,
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Plus here in America we release water and even knock down dams because the courts say that we are harming the fish.
Shocked My first thought was nahh, bullshit...but then I realised you wouldn't be joking...We are the second driest continent and the idea of knocking over a dam is funny...

When we first formed a Federation, a survey was made of all the available dam locations and it was estimated we would be able to support a population of 20 mil . We have passed 22 mil . Technology and management have increased our water supply availability, but I still wonder how many we CAN support .
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