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Why Has 50 Shades of Grey Blown Up So Big?

 
 
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Thu 19 Feb, 2015 08:55 pm
@hawkeye10,
Think about the people who give you a ten minute brow beat when you use the term " safe sex" because they want it called "safer sex" and you will have the number on these people. They are mostly young and not experienced, those who have been around tend to avoid them doing informal gatherings in our homes with like minded non paranoid non bossy people.

BTW: in general BDSM people are some of the least tolerant people around. Those who stick with it for a decade or more tend to grow out of it.
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djjd62
 
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Reply Fri 20 Feb, 2015 06:11 am
@maxdancona,
plenty of high grossing bad films, as has been stated before never underestimate the stupidity, gullibility and any number of other ity's that folks can fall victim to

The Worst Reviewed Highest Grossing Movies Of All-Time

http://www.slashfilm.com/the-worst-reviewed-highest-grossing-movie-of-all-time/
maxdancona
 
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Reply Fri 20 Feb, 2015 10:08 am
@Ragman,
The key term here is "consensual". If two people choose to engage in sexual behavior, I don't see how is it anyone else's business whether it meets some standard of "sane".

I haven't seen the movie yet, so I can't make a judgement. But an inner disagreement between people in the "BDSM community" about what is proper behavior is a little funny to me. I don't know much about BDSM, but breaking established norms seems like part of the point.



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maxdancona
 
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Reply Fri 20 Feb, 2015 10:10 am
@djjd62,
Tell me you didn't enjoy "Meet the Focker's".

Maybe the people who are being stupid and gullible are the people who pay attention to the reviews and ratings rather than just deciding for themselves if they enjoy the movie.
tsarstepan
 
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Reply Fri 20 Feb, 2015 10:34 am
@maxdancona,
maxdancona wrote:

Tell me you didn't enjoy "Meet the Focker's".

I disdained that De Niro/Stiller stinker of a comic franchise.

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Maybe the people who are being stupid and gullible are the people who pay attention to the reviews and ratings rather than just deciding for themselves if they enjoy the movie.

So. I'm going to assume that...
1. You're a millionaire or better... a billionaire. You have no money problems and can see every movie that ever existed and in any format that existed.
2. You are immortal. You have all the time in the world to take in EVERY movie and television series that's ever been produced. Also read every book that's ever been published as well.
3. You hate educated consumers for researching things before they buy.
4. You bought 10 subsequent Yugos in the past, cars from the former Yugoslavia. Of course you didn't bother reading car reviews or listen to people's word of mouth. You're independent of mind. You have the resources and stubborn mind to determine if a given product is worthy or not. If it doesn't live up to your expectations, you dump it and go ahead and buy the next piece of crap. Because hey! You just didn't know any better. You don't read reviews or give a crap about any other entities' opinions regardless if it's an educated one or not.
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djjd62
 
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Reply Fri 20 Feb, 2015 11:10 am
@maxdancona,
never saw it
tsarstepan
 
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Reply Sat 21 Feb, 2015 01:28 pm
@djjd62,
This isn't an endorsement, so please don't bite me head off. Just pointing out this protects as a curiosity.
‘Fifty Shades Of Grey’ Boycott Calls For People To Ditch The Film And Give $50
http://www.wbur.org/2015/02/11/fifty-shades-of-grey-boycott

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A social media campaign called #50dollarsnot50shades is asking people to donate $50 to a battered women’s shelter instead of going to see the movie, which critics say glamorizes and perpetuates violence against women.

Personally, I can't stand the whole 50 Shades of Crap franchise. I guess it's just a bit of PR opportunism or do people really think that 50 Shades is a question regarding consent? I was under the (admittedly not so informed) opinion that our female protagonist was a willing partner in the book. Is this naive?
maxdancona
 
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Reply Mon 23 Feb, 2015 09:26 am
@tsarstepan,
It is PR opportunism. The Feminists are doing to '50 Shades of Grey' what the North Koreans did to 'The Interview'.

Now I have to watch another movie on principle that I probably won't enjoy.
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Mon 23 Feb, 2015 11:58 am
@tsarstepan,
Quote:
Personally, I can't stand the whole 50 Shades of Crap franchise. I guess it's just a bit of PR opportunism or do people really think that 50 Shades is a question regarding consent? I was under the (admittedly not so informed) opinion that our female protagonist was a willing partner in the book. Is this naive?


Yes, according to the feminists asking for something sexuall "too many" times or demanding anything sexual as terms for relationship invalidates consent because it has been obtained by force. That is why you see feminists writing that 50 Shades is a movie entirely about assault.
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sonnyjr
 
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Reply Mon 23 Feb, 2015 11:32 pm
@hawkeye10,
It was promoted that way, People became more stupid than ever before after social media Came through. Its a shame, A porn movie XX movie just made few millions just days after its release....Sad
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Lordyaswas
 
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Reply Tue 24 Feb, 2015 12:16 am
Sheesh.

This type of thing has been going on for generations. Why the hell do you think that Lady Chatterly sold in the millions around the world?

I remember the queues in the 70's to see a bit of rudery at the Cinema. Emmanuelle went on to have about six sequels, didn't it?

Apart from Deep Throat, it was all tittilating nonsense, which allowed the normally prude or curious to let their hair down for an hour or two and see something a bit saucy.
In those days there was no internet, and very limited access to naughty stuff of any kind.

My question about the 50 shades nonsense is why the hell people would pay good money and go out of their way to go and see this type of stuff nowadays, when at the touch of a few keys and maybe five minutes of googling on their PC or laptop, they can read or watch virtually anything in the 'hide the sausage' category of entertainment in the comfort of their own homes.....for free!

Reading along, one would be forgiven in thinking that it was this generation that invented sex and are the pioneers in being somehow perverted enough to want to revel in it enough to actually enjoy watching and reading naughty stuff.

Lady Chatterly, What the Butler saw, Lolita, black and white silent porn, dirty postcards.....they all hit the scene long before the vast majority of us lot were born.
People have always been interested in everything to do with sex, it's just the technologies and marketing that changes.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Tue 24 Feb, 2015 12:22 am
@Lordyaswas,
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This type of thing has been going on for generations. Why the hell do you think that Lady Chatterly sold in the millions around the world?

not in reputable book stores and a movie was not made just years after. You are very confused/ignorant.
Lordyaswas
 
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Reply Tue 24 Feb, 2015 04:42 am
@hawkeye10,
Check your history, clever clogs.

It seems that it is YOU who seems to be very confused/ignorant, but then again most of us have been fully aware of this for some time.

Ahem.....ten seconds of googling found this. There are probably similar stories to this from many other countries around the world, if you care to look.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/november/10/newsid_2965000/2965194.stm


"1960: Lady Chatterley's Lover sold out
Bookshops all over England have sold out of Penguin's first run of the controversial novel Lady Chatterley's Lover - a total of 200,000 copies - on the first day of publication.
DH Lawrence's sexually explicit novel was published in Italy in 1928 and in Paris the following year. It has been banned in the UK - until now.

Last month, after a dramatic and much-publicised trial, Penguin won the right to publish the book in its entirety.

For those who can manage to find a copy, it is available in paperback for 3s 6d.

Rush to buy

London's largest bookstore, W&G Foyle Ltd, said its 300 copies had gone in just 15 minutes and it had taken orders for 3,000 more copies.

When the shop opened this morning there were 400 people - mostly men - waiting to buy the unexpurgated version of the book.

Hatchards in Piccadilly sold out in 40 minutes and also had hundreds of orders pending.

Selfridges sold 250 copies in minutes. A spokesman told the Times newspaper, "It's bedlam here. We could have sold 10,000 copies if we had had them."

Lady C, as it has become known, has also become a bestseller in the Midlands and the North where demand has been described as "terrific".

Novel on trial

The book tells of Lady Chatterley's passionate affair with Mellors, the family gamekeeper, and details their erotic meetings.

Last year the government introduced the Obscene Publications Act that said that any book considered obscene by some but that could be shown to have "redeeming social merit" might still published.

This prompted Penguin to print off and store 200,000 copies with the aim of completing a set of works by DH Lawrence to commemorate the 30th anniversary of his death this year.

Penguin sent 12 copies to the Director of Public Prosecutions challenging him to prosecute, which he duly did.

The six-day trial at the Old Bailey began on 27 October and gripped the nation.

The defence produced 35 witnesses, including bishops and leading literary figures, such as Dame Rebecca West, EM Forster and Richard Hoggart.

The prosecution was unable to make a substantial case against the novel and at one point prosecution counsel Mervyn Griffith-Jones shocked the jury by asking: "Is it a book you would wish your wife or servants to read?"
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Lordyaswas
 
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Reply Tue 24 Feb, 2015 05:00 am
Extract from: bristol.ac.uk/library/resources/.../ladychatterleyresourcepack.doc

"McWhirter requests the total sales figures for Lady Chatterley's Lover for inclusion in the new edition of The Guinness Book of Records. He says that the last figure they had was 4,250,000 to January 1964."
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sun 1 Mar, 2015 04:24 pm
@Lordyaswas,
Do you remember the old black and white newsreel of people queuing up to buy Lady Chatterly. Every time censorship is in the news they tend to show it. It's basically a load of people being asked why they're queuing up, and the response is pretty much, "I just wanted to see what all the fuss was about."

All except for one bloke who screams and runs off. It's like your worst nightmare, being filmed buying porn. Not only that, every time porn is in the news, you're shown buying it, year after year after year. "Is that granddad buying porn on the news again? He's been dead for ten years, but it doesn't stop him"
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hingehead
 
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Reply Tue 24 Mar, 2015 07:26 pm
https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/318479_10151203786639669_394393408_n.jpg?oh=c6312f4d988413c69a7af16c9c08e2ee&oe=55A9B436&__gda__=1437172889_d3a19fcfe08d83e7e8425f53d540d5d8
maxdancona
 
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Reply Tue 24 Mar, 2015 07:37 pm
People still go to see "To Kill a Mockingbird" a movie that has a sympathetic portrayal of the protagonist questioning the story of a rape victim.
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maxdancona
 
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Reply Tue 24 Mar, 2015 07:47 pm
@hingehead,
That is very funny Hingehead.

I love this cartoon because it works as both feminist and anti-feminist humor.

+1
hingehead
 
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Reply Tue 24 Mar, 2015 08:37 pm
@maxdancona,
Hi Max

I can't see the anti-feminist line, what have I missed?
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Tue 24 Mar, 2015 08:38 pm
@maxdancona,
Mostly against, the feminists are increasingly classifying seduction as abuse, yet most women I know still expect to be seduced. Men are in a no win situation
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