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The Bride Of Christ

 
 
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sat 14 Mar, 2015 07:27 am
@Squeakybro,
You really don't understand irony do you? Your opinion is that of an idiot, an unthinking idiot with no intellectual curiosity whatsoever. That's why you're so easily outwitted by a headless chicken.
Squeakybro
 
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Reply Sat 14 Mar, 2015 08:12 am
@izzythepush,
lolol God doesn't think much of our intellect either.
INTELLECTUAL IDIOTS (MANS SYSTEM OF BELIEF)(CARNAL MIND)
2 Cor 11:3
3 But I fear, lest somehow, as the serpent deceived Eve by his craftiness, so your minds may be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.
Matt 11:25
25 At that time Jesus answered and said, "I thank You, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that You have hidden these things from the wise and prudent and have revealed them to babes.
John 6:61
61 When Jesus knew in Himself that His disciples complained about this, He said to them, "Does this offend you?
Matt 11:6
6 "And blessed is he who is not offended because of Me."
Matt 12:37
37 "For by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned."
Matt 18:3
3 and said, "Assuredly, I say to you, unless you are converted and become as little children, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven.
Col 2:8
8 Beware lest anyone cheat you through philosophy and empty deceit, according to the tradition of men, according to the basic principles of the world, and not according to Christ.
John 5:38-39
38 "But you do not have His word abiding in you, because whom He sent, Him you do not believe.
39 "You search the Scriptures, for in them you think you have eternal life; and these are they which testify of Me.
John 3:34
34 "For He whom God has sent speaks the words of God, for God does not give the Spirit by measure.
1 Tim 6:3-4
3 If anyone teaches otherwise and does not consent to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which accords with godliness,
4 he is proud, knowing nothing, but is obsessed with disputes and arguments over words, from which come envy, strife, reviling, evil suspicions,
Rom 16:18
18 For those who are such do not serve our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly, and by smooth words and flattering speech deceive the hearts of the simple.
Matt 23:24
24 "Blind guides, who strain out a gnat and swallow a camel!
Matt 13:14-15
14 "And in them the prophecy of Isaiah is fulfilled, which says: 'Hearing you will hear and shall not understand, and seeing you will see and not perceive;
15 For the hearts of this people have grown dull. Their ears are hard of hearing, and their eyes they have closed, lest they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, lest they should understand with their hearts and turn, so that I should heal them.'
Rom 3:18
18 "There is no fear of God before their eyes."
Luke 1:50
50 And His mercy is on those who fear Him from generation to generation.
1 Cor 1:26
26 For you see your calling, brethren, that not many wise according to the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called.
Rom 11:25
25 For I do not desire, brethren, that you should be ignorant of this mystery, lest you should be wise in your own opinion, that blindness in part has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in.
Rom 12:16
16 Be of the same mind toward one another. Do not set your mind on high things, but associate with the humble. Do not be wise in your own opinion.
Heb 4:12-13
12 For the word of God is living and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, and of joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
13 And there is no creature hidden from His sight, but all things are naked and open to the eyes of Him to whom we must give account.
2 Pet 2:18-19
18 For when they speak great swelling words of emptiness, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through lewdness, the ones who have actually escaped from those who live in error.
19 While they promise them liberty, they themselves are slaves of corruption; for by whom a person is overcome, by him also he is brought into bondage.
1 Cor 2:1-14
1 And I, brethren, when I came to you, did not come with excellence of speech or of wisdom declaring to you the testimony of God.
2 For I determined not to know anything among you except Jesus Christ and Him crucified.
3 I was with you in weakness, in fear, and in much trembling.
4 And my speech and my preaching were not with persuasive words of human wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power,
5 that your faith should not be in the wisdom of men but in the power of God.
6 However, we speak wisdom among those who are mature, yet not the wisdom of this age, nor of the rulers of this age, who are coming to nothing.
7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, the hidden wisdom which God ordained before the ages for our glory,
8 which none of the rulers of this age knew; for had they known, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.
9 But as it is written: "Eye has not seen, nor ear heard, nor have entered into the heart of man the things which God has prepared for those who love Him."
10 But God has revealed them to us through His Spirit. For the Spirit searches all things, yes, the deep things of God.
11 For what man knows the things of a man except the spirit of the man which is in him? Even so no one knows the things of God except the Spirit of God.
12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, that we might know the things that have been freely given to us by God.
13 These things we also speak, not in words which man's wisdom teaches but which the Holy Spirit teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
14 But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
John 9:39
39 And Jesus said, "For judgment I have come into this world, that those who do not see may see, and that those who see may be made blind."
Rom 11:8
8 Just as it is written: "God has given them a spirit of stupor, eyes that they should not see and ears that they should not hear, to this very day."
Luke 16:8
8 "So the master commended the unjust steward because he had dealt shrewdly. For the sons of this world are more shrewd in their generation than the sons of light.
(NKJ)

xxChristians are going to lose lots of carnal arguements to intellectuals. This is how they are separated, the sheep from the goats. But those who have lots of human wisdom also have lots of deception. Because to come to the Holy Spirit it is required to purge the carnal wisdom and have faith in the verses. Because the intellect is of the flesh and human wisdom. But faith is of the verses and strength to endure the humiliation by the intellectuals. An intellectual has to be right at all cost, and their arguement will waver back and forth until they feel they have won. But remember God has made foolish the wisdom of man. He who is from God speaks the Words of God(verses). Man is glorified on earth, but Christians will be glorified in the resurrection.

Heb 12:3
3 For consider Him who endured such hostility from sinners against Himself, lest you become weary and discouraged in your souls.
(NKJ)


RATIONAL MIND
Mark 2:6-8
6 And some of the scribes were sitting there and reasoning in their hearts,
7 "Why does this Man speak blasphemies like this? Who can forgive sins but God alone?"
8 But immediately, when Jesus perceived in His spirit that they reasoned thus within themselves, He said to them, "Why do you reason about these things in your hearts?
Luke 5:21-22
21 And the scribes and the Pharisees began to reason, saying, "Who is this who speaks blasphemies? Who can forgive sins but God alone?"
22 But when Jesus perceived their thoughts, He answered and said to them, "Why are you reasoning in your hearts?
(NKJ)

xxThe one big problem with the rational mind(reasoning out things) is that they assume that they know the truth about everything already. So they start out in their thinking with the assumption that they can know. But what does the Word of God say: unless you become as a little child, you will by no means enter the kingdom of God. And a little child just believes everything you tell them. Well that is what the Word of God says, just believe what the Word tells you. In reality the Word is saying believe it first and then God will open your understanding. But the rational mind says dont believe nothing until you have good reason behind it. This is the difference between accepting it on faith, and reasoning it out according to mans wisdom. The Word accually says to first repent then believe in the gospel. It doesnt say reason it out until it says what you want it to. To many have a pre-conceived idea planted by some man before they open the bible. Then they search to find something that supports their already pre-conceived idea.


Mark 1:15
15 and saying, "The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand. Repent, and believe in the gospel."
(NKJ)


1 Cor 2:4-5
4 And my speech and my preaching were not with persuasive words of human wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power,
5 that your faith should not be in the wisdom of men but in the power of God.
(NKJ)



izzythepush
 
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Reply Sat 14 Mar, 2015 09:08 am
@Squeakybro,
Sez you.
neologist
 
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Reply Sat 14 Mar, 2015 09:33 am
@Ionus,
You should actually read Genesis.
Chapter 2, in part, is a summation of chapter 1.
Note, that by lumping the first 6 days into one day in vs 4, it becomes obvious that these are not 24 hour periods. And the fact that the seventh day has not yet ended should give you an idea of how long these 'days' actually are.
Ionus
 
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Reply Sat 14 Mar, 2015 09:36 am
@neologist,
Oh but I have read Genesis. Yes I think it is obvious that days in Genesis are not 24 hr periods. Where are your counter arguments to what I raised ?
neologist
 
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Reply Sat 14 Mar, 2015 09:43 am
@Squeakybro,
Squeakybro wrote:
What are straw men?
Here is an example both you and I have seen:
Someone tells you the Bible must be false because it says that God is really 3 gods.

They do this either out of ignorance or a desire to deceive.

It is called a straw man because it is built from nothing.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sat 14 Mar, 2015 09:46 am
@neologist,
neologist wrote:
And the fact that the seventh day has not yet ended should give you an idea of how long these 'days' actually are.


So God's still sleeping off the revels of Saturday night. That's one hell of a hangover.
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neologist
 
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Reply Sat 14 Mar, 2015 09:56 am
@Squeakybro,
Squeakybro wrote:
ROFLOL The one basic thing that the bible teaches is to purge all carnality. . .. .
Actually, the basic teaching of the Bible can be found in the first few words of the "Lord's Prayer".

Many people repeat it daily without understanding that they are praying for:
The glorification of God's name.
The establishment of the kingdom as foretold in Daniel 2:44.
And the vindication of God's right to set standards for his creation.

(It's in Matthew 6, starting in verse 9. You should read it carefully)
neologist
 
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Reply Sat 14 Mar, 2015 10:00 am
@Ionus,
You will have to give verse to verse specifics. I don't see any contradiction.
Squeakybro
 
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Reply Sat 14 Mar, 2015 10:11 am
@izzythepush,
I said
lolol Says me, and God.
Squeakybro
 
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Reply Sat 14 Mar, 2015 10:12 am
@neologist,
Thank you that is what I have heard a lot.
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Squeakybro
 
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Reply Sat 14 Mar, 2015 10:13 am
@neologist,
And in order to believe it they must purge something out that is contrary to the Word.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Sat 14 Mar, 2015 10:46 am
@Squeakybro,
No, sez you, just you. Your peculiar interpretations aren't facts, they're just peculiar interpretations.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sat 14 Mar, 2015 10:52 am
@Squeakybro,
Squeakybro wrote:
The one big problem with the rational mind(reasoning out things) is that they assume that they know the truth about everything already. So they start out in their thinking with the assumption that they can know.


No, that's what people like you do. Science is the exact opposite, things are tested by experiment, anyone who says something is then peer reviewed. It's only after it's been subjected to rigorous examination that it's established as a truth.

You make assumptions based on nothing but blind faith and the writings of a bunch of bronze age 'mystics.' All of your thinking is based on the assumption you know, and you don't let facts and evidence get in the way of your nonsense.

Don't bother replying. I can do that for you. lololo here's a load of irrelevant scripture.
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Squeakybro
 
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Reply Sat 14 Mar, 2015 10:53 am
@izzythepush,
Your an intellectual idiot. Here is what God alone says about your intellect.


2 Cor 11:3
3 But I fear, lest somehow, as the serpent deceived Eve by his craftiness, so your minds may be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.
Matt 11:25
25 At that time Jesus answered and said, "I thank You, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that You have hidden these things from the wise and prudent and have revealed them to babes.
John 6:61
61 When Jesus knew in Himself that His disciples complained about this, He said to them, "Does this offend you?
Matt 11:6
6 "And blessed is he who is not offended because of Me."
Matt 12:37
37 "For by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned."
Matt 18:3
3 and said, "Assuredly, I say to you, unless you are converted and become as little children, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven.
Col 2:8
8 Beware lest anyone cheat you through philosophy and empty deceit, according to the tradition of men, according to the basic principles of the world, and not according to Christ.
John 5:38-39
38 "But you do not have His word abiding in you, because whom He sent, Him you do not believe.
39 "You search the Scriptures, for in them you think you have eternal life; and these are they which testify of Me.
John 3:34
34 "For He whom God has sent speaks the words of God, for God does not give the Spirit by measure.
1 Tim 6:3-4
3 If anyone teaches otherwise and does not consent to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which accords with godliness,
4 he is proud, knowing nothing, but is obsessed with disputes and arguments over words, from which come envy, strife, reviling, evil suspicions,
Rom 16:18
18 For those who are such do not serve our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly, and by smooth words and flattering speech deceive the hearts of the simple.
Matt 23:24
24 "Blind guides, who strain out a gnat and swallow a camel!
Matt 13:14-15
14 "And in them the prophecy of Isaiah is fulfilled, which says: 'Hearing you will hear and shall not understand, and seeing you will see and not perceive;
15 For the hearts of this people have grown dull. Their ears are hard of hearing, and their eyes they have closed, lest they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, lest they should understand with their hearts and turn, so that I should heal them.'
Rom 3:18
18 "There is no fear of God before their eyes."
Luke 1:50
50 And His mercy is on those who fear Him from generation to generation.
1 Cor 1:26
26 For you see your calling, brethren, that not many wise according to the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called.
Rom 11:25
25 For I do not desire, brethren, that you should be ignorant of this mystery, lest you should be wise in your own opinion, that blindness in part has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in.
Rom 12:16
16 Be of the same mind toward one another. Do not set your mind on high things, but associate with the humble. Do not be wise in your own opinion.
Heb 4:12-13
12 For the word of God is living and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, and of joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
13 And there is no creature hidden from His sight, but all things are naked and open to the eyes of Him to whom we must give account.
2 Pet 2:18-19
18 For when they speak great swelling words of emptiness, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through lewdness, the ones who have actually escaped from those who live in error.
19 While they promise them liberty, they themselves are slaves of corruption; for by whom a person is overcome, by him also he is brought into bondage.
1 Cor 2:1-14
1 And I, brethren, when I came to you, did not come with excellence of speech or of wisdom declaring to you the testimony of God.
2 For I determined not to know anything among you except Jesus Christ and Him crucified.
3 I was with you in weakness, in fear, and in much trembling.
4 And my speech and my preaching were not with persuasive words of human wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power,
5 that your faith should not be in the wisdom of men but in the power of God.
6 However, we speak wisdom among those who are mature, yet not the wisdom of this age, nor of the rulers of this age, who are coming to nothing.
7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, the hidden wisdom which God ordained before the ages for our glory,
8 which none of the rulers of this age knew; for had they known, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.
9 But as it is written: "Eye has not seen, nor ear heard, nor have entered into the heart of man the things which God has prepared for those who love Him."
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sat 14 Mar, 2015 11:08 am
@Squeakybro,
Sez you and just you.
Squeakybro
 
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Reply Sat 14 Mar, 2015 11:54 am
@izzythepush,
You are an idiot. Them are all verses out of Gods Word. And there all about you.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sat 14 Mar, 2015 12:50 pm
@Squeakybro,
Sez the idiot who doesn't even know which there/their/they're to use. None of them are about me, and just because you say they are doesn't make it so. They were written by Bronze Age men who were making guesses about the world, and rewriting History to make the Israelites look good. It was all long before I was born. They were not written by God, and only an idiot would think they were. The Bible is chock full of mistakes, inaccuracies and contradictions. A divine document would not be so flawed.

Take the Gospels according to Matthew and Luke regarding the census. It's wrong about when it happened, and it's wrong about the requirement of people to travel back to their places of birth. It was just included to try to shoehorn Jesus into previous prophecies.

Then we have your ridiculous assertion that God narrated the Gospels. Mark wrote the first canonical gospel but it appears after Matthew because it's considered to be better. So if what you said is to be believed God was having an off day when he spoke to Mark, and only managed to get his act together when he talked to Matthew.

Many intelligent Christians reconcile these inaccuracies by looking at a higher truth, but not you, in the ridiculous notion that blind unthinking faith is a good thing.

Let's face facts, you're never going to discover a cure for cancer or write the great American novel. You're not even going to write a second rate trashy novel. You're a very stupid individual who's unlikely to amount to anything so you try to make a virtue out of your own stupidity. By sticking your fingers in your ears, going "lalala I can't hear you," (actually that should be lololo) you think you're somehow following the divine. You're not, you're desperately trying to make up for your own inadequacies which are legion.

Now you can lololo, blame the truth on demons, and quote scripture as much as you want, but the only person you're fooling is yourself.
Squeakybro
 
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Reply Sat 14 Mar, 2015 01:02 pm
@izzythepush,
ROFLOL I should thank you for following up with a good example of what an intellectual idiot is. Because you certainly show it in your reply.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sat 14 Mar, 2015 01:42 pm
@Squeakybro,
As predictable as always. You just keep avoiding reality, because the truth is way too painful
 

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