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Islamic Terrorists Strike France

 
 
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sat 10 Jan, 2015 12:51 pm
@Olivier5,
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But there is something positive there. A form of slow, patient education of the masses through... well, cartoons, debate, soul-searching a bit... Learning to live together bit by bit. Hopefully.
the problem has not been the french willingness to take in and live with islamic immigrants, it has been the second generation of those immigrants willingness to live peacefully and productively in France. How are we doing on that problem?
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sat 10 Jan, 2015 12:56 pm
@Lordyaswas,
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Pure tripe.


Documented facts are pure tripe, got ya.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sat 10 Jan, 2015 01:19 pm
From 2011. Could it possibly be better now? It isn't.
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For instance, at least 85 Islamic Sharia courts are now operating in Britain, almost 20 times as many as previously believed, according to a study by Civitas, a London-based think tank. The report shows that scores of unofficial tribunals and councils regularly apply Islamic law to resolve domestic, marital and business disputes, and that many are operating in mosques. It warns of a "creeping" acceptance of Sharia principles in British law.

Britain is also creating a parallel Islamic financial system to fill the growing demand for Sharia-compliant banking products in the wake of Muslim mass immigration to the country. According to the "Global Islamic Finance Report 2011," Britain has emerged as "ground zero" for Islamic banking in Europe; and London is now the main center for Islamic finance outside the Muslim world.

Sharia law is transforming daily life in Britain in other ways, as well. In the Tower Hamlets area of East London (also known as the Islamic Republic of Tower Hamlets),for example, extremist Muslim preachers, called the Tower Hamlets' Taliban, regularly issue death threats to women who refuse to wear Islamic veils. Neighborhood streets have been plastered with posters declaring "You are entering a Sharia controlled zone: Islamic rules enforced." And street advertizing deemed offensive to Muslims is regularly vandalized or blacked out with spray paint.

The mayor of Tower Hamlets is the Bangladeshi-born Lutfur Rahman, an ally of Choudary. Rahman is linked to the Islamic Forum of Europe (IFE), an Islamist group dedicated to changing the "very infrastructure of society, its institutions, its culture, its political order and its creed ... from ignorance to Islam." Not surprisingly, the public libraries in Tower Hamlets have been stocked with books and DVDs containing the extremist rantings of banned Islamist preachers.

Meanwhile, Britain is struggling to combat a cycle of Islamic honor-related kidnappings, sexual assaults, beatings and murder that is spiralling out of control. According to the London-based Association of Chief Police Officers, up to 17,000 women in Britain are victims of honor-based violence – forced marriages, honor killings, kidnappings, sexual assaults, beatings, female genital mutilation and other forms of abuse – every year. This figure is 35 times higher than official figures suggest, and British detectives say it is "merely the tip of the iceberg" of this phenomenon.

The Islamic Emirates of Britain Project would seem to be well underway.


So do you UK people have wi-fi under the rock where you apparently live.

http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/2278/britain-islamic-emirates-project
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sat 10 Jan, 2015 01:23 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:

There aren't a lot of "islamtic immigrants" in France: most of them are French.
French Roms (= Gitans, Tsiganes, Manouches, Romanichels, Bohémiens, and Sintis) are settled, employed, integrated: as Roms they have become "invisible" and are French like Marianne.


Ya, I am aware of the argument that the problem is not the new arrivals and the second and third generations, that the problem is that they are not accepted as fully French and suffer discrimination. And I noticed a Hollande quote from 2 days ago which at least as it was written in English deeply implied that the Muslims are not fully French. But then I read about the muslims self segregating their housing arrangements and the young bitching that they cant get jobs when I know that the French youth are scattering around Europe looking for work because the French economy can not provide jobs and I wonder how much of the Muslim complaints about France are justified.

THe French government however does not want to know even how many Muslims are in France, so dont be expecting them to shine any light on the situation.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sat 10 Jan, 2015 01:31 pm
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Dewsbury, Bradford and Tower Hamlets ... where Islamic extremists want to establish independent states with sharia law

Medieval 'emirates' would operate outside British rule


Wow, look at that, and from today.

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The notorious Muslims Against the Crusades (MAC) group have named Yorkshire towns Bradford and Dewsbury and Tower Hamlets in East London as testbeds for blanket sharia rule.

The medieval 'emirates' would operate entirely outside British law, according to a document on the MAC website






Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2011433/Islamic-extremists-set-independent-states-UK-fall-Shariah-law.html#ixzz3ORrdgfVV
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 10 Jan, 2015 01:36 pm
@hawkeye10,
hawkeye10 wrote:
THe French government however does not want to know even how many Muslims are in France, so dont be expecting them to shine any light on the situation.
We don't know it here either - the same with quite a lot of members of other religions (= with all Germans, who don't pay "church tax").
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 10 Jan, 2015 02:22 pm
Not just an aside: the quick thinking by a French Muslim employee has saved the lives of 15 French Jewish customers in the kosher supermarket in Paris during the deadly terrorist attack on Friday, when he told customers to hide in the store's basement freezer.
Lordyaswas
 
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Reply Sat 10 Jan, 2015 02:32 pm
@coldjoint,
You are definitely equal to gunga when it comes to hook, line and sinker gullibility, coldjoint.

You initially come across as ignorant and hateful, but when one actually stops to look at the bilge that you link on this site, you are quite laughable.

The picture you try to paint of Britain is so far off the mark it actually comes across as comical.

Twerp is a suitable word to describe you.

Twat if I wanted to swear.
Olivier5
 
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Reply Sat 10 Jan, 2015 02:36 pm
@hawkeye10,
National level factors (eg young french muslims getting no jobs) can only go so far to explain this. The link with international jihah seems clear and determinant. And Charlie is engaged in a form of ideological warfare that is inherently international.

Edit: locally, the number of muslim participating in the various demonstrations is a closely watched indicator. Still pretty low. Many Muslims i got to know in France or abroad have problems stomaching Charlie Hebdo's virulent, radical sarcasm. It's unfathomably beyond gross to them, and I also understand that.
Krumple
 
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Reply Sat 10 Jan, 2015 02:38 pm
@hawkeye10,
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PARIS — Masked gunmen armed with AK-47s and shouting "Allahu Akbar" stormed the offices of a French satirical news magazine Wednesday in a terror attack that left 12 people dead, including the editor and two police officers.

The suspects shot dead one of the officers on the street as they fled — escaping first in a black Citroen that they abandoned after a crash, and then in a sedan they carjacked from a bystander.

There was no verified claim of responsibility or motive for the ambush, but the target, a weekly publication called Charlie Hebdo, has published cartoons of the Muslim Prophet Muhammad and was firebombed three years ago.

Late in the day, authorities released the names of three suspects: Said Kouachi and Cherif Kouachi, both in their 30s, and 18-year-old Hamyd Mourad.


http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/paris-magazine-attack/charlie-hebdo-shooting-12-killed-muhammad-cartoons-magazine-paris-n281266


guns don't kill people, religion does..
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sat 10 Jan, 2015 02:40 pm
@Olivier5,
Olivier5 wrote:

And Charlie is engaged in a form of ideological warfare that is inherently international.


Some say they are racists as well. Others claim they satirize all comers. Never read it so IDK.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sat 10 Jan, 2015 02:41 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
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There aren't a lot of "islamtic immigrants" in France: most of them are French.
Earlier post
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the quick thinking by a French Muslim employee


So what is it a French Muslim or a Frenchman? The thing you should worry about it the ideology that put this man in that position.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sat 10 Jan, 2015 02:44 pm
@Lordyaswas,
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The picture you try to paint of Britain is so far off the mark it actually comes across as comical.


http://www.alien-earth.org/images/smileys/bullshit.gif
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InfraBlue
 
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Reply Sat 10 Jan, 2015 02:45 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:

http://i60.tinypic.com/fjnkt2.jpg


Translation, please.
Lordyaswas
 
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Reply Sat 10 Jan, 2015 02:49 pm
@hawkeye10,
My brother gets it and has read it for years.

Basically, the magazine shines a light on the issues of the day and the pompous, whether they be politicians or religious zealots, big Corporations or corruption.
Anything, anyone and any religion is fair game. If someone or something needs bringing down to earth, then illustrated satire is the quickest and easiest way to do it.

Europeans have been doing this for centuries. In Britain, the Georgian kings were mocked mercilessly through cartoons. Even people who couldn't read could take one look and get the message straight away.

Example:

http://tealcartoons.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/100.jpg
Olivier5
 
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Reply Sat 10 Jan, 2015 02:52 pm
@hawkeye10,
They are anti-religious (anti-clerical as we say), with no hold barrel if that's the expression. I was talking about them recently to Set in an atheism-related thread. Atheists in France and worldwide morn some of their most radical (and funniest) standard bearers.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sat 10 Jan, 2015 02:52 pm
@Lordyaswas,
Interestingly enough I was just reading in the Atlantic that one sure sign of trouble with the American view of our military is that we no longer feel free to criticize or satirize it. We are both too far removed from it and we put it on a pedestal, which makes us blind to its flaws and failings, at great cost to the nation.

I think this is right, and that Europeans need to take note. When I see so many media outlets deciding to no long post satirical cartoons of allegedly victim groups like Muslims and the gypsies I get very concerned.
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sat 10 Jan, 2015 02:54 pm
@Olivier5,
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Atheists in France and worldwide morn some of their most radical (and funniest) standard bear

Aren't almost all French other than the Muslims post religious?
Olivier5
 
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Reply Sat 10 Jan, 2015 02:56 pm
@InfraBlue,
After the scandal of the piss-made Christ [showed in an art gallery] in Lyons:
All religions to the shithole!
(on paper rolls: bible, qoran, torah)
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Olivier5
 
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Reply Sat 10 Jan, 2015 02:58 pm
@hawkeye10,
To simplify a bit, the left is largely post-religious but not the right.
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