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Why do people associate evolution with where life came from

 
 
hingehead
 
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Reply Sun 7 Dec, 2014 10:19 pm
@DNA Thumbs drive,
Thin slivers of aluminium can store binary code. Molecules can store binary code. I fail to see why using DNA to store code means there must be a creator. Your constant use of the phrase 'hard drive' is pointless analogy to my ears.
DNA Thumbs drive
 
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Reply Mon 8 Dec, 2014 04:58 am
@Brandon9000,
So DNA has nothing to do with evolution. Dude, just Google it, without DNA there would be no evolution. https://www.google.com/#q=what+causes+evolution

But you can tell us again that DNA has nothing to do with evolution if you want to demonstrate your ignorance.
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DNA Thumbs drive
 
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Reply Mon 8 Dec, 2014 05:16 am
@hingehead,
DNA can now be used in a human made computer, to store binary code. In your last post you revealed that you were ignorant to this, thus I am educating you, this is good. Since DNA is now a binary code hard drive, and the name of the humans who CREATED this is known, DNA as a binary hard drive has a CREATOR. There is no speculation in this, as the names of the creators of the DNA binary hard drive are, George Church and Sri Kosuri. Do you want to claim, that the creators name can not be Church, because this implies religion, or do you want to claim again that hard drives design themselves from nothingness. The implication is clear, as the line between life and machines is lessening, as life is being revealed by science to actually have parts that are machine like. Clearly a machine, that can redesign itself after the creator of the machine, is no longer there, is an intelligent design..........



PS. Your ears are not involved in this.

http://katiephd.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/DNA-hard-drive.jpg
hingehead
 
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Reply Mon 8 Dec, 2014 02:44 pm
@DNA Thumbs drive,
So if I find a way to code binary in a substance that substance becomes a binary code hard drive and therefore there must be a creator? Whatever purpose it had before this is no longer relevant and in fact has nothing to do with the substance?

Your brain is not involved in this.
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hingehead
 
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Reply Mon 8 Dec, 2014 03:43 pm
Sorry I forgot obligatory images that mean nothing but I think provide proof

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/53668000/jpg/_53668298_sand.jpg http://micropower-global.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/computer-chips2.jpg
DNA Thumbs drive
 
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Reply Mon 8 Dec, 2014 06:40 pm
@hingehead,
You do know that the photos of sand, that were turned into a microchip, were created by an intelligent designer.....

So thanks for making my point so vividly.

CIAO

http://s3.amazonaws.com/rapgenius/tumblr_llyzrhJu8U1qjvxgjo1_500.jpg
hingehead
 
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Reply Mon 8 Dec, 2014 07:15 pm
@DNA Thumbs drive,
Actually it shits on your point.

DNA existed before it was used to store binary code.

Nice smelling roses, hey?
DNA Thumbs drive
 
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Reply Mon 8 Dec, 2014 07:45 pm
@hingehead,
But explain how the DNA code existed, before the life that it creates, without an intelligent designer? Go.

Sand turned into a microchip, takes an intelligent designer, thus you made my point with eloquence, thanks......
hingehead
 
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Reply Mon 8 Dec, 2014 09:05 pm
@DNA Thumbs drive,
Sigh. It evolved. By definition life replicates. Chemistries that don't replicate didn't survive.

I know you don't believe it. But your line of reasoning that because you can encode binary in DNA it must be designed is ludicrous.

I can encode binary in sand. Is sand designed?
DNA Thumbs drive
 
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Reply Mon 8 Dec, 2014 09:38 pm
@hingehead,
Sigh, DNA is the code that controls all evolution, and without DNA nothing evolves, so how did something evolve, without the code that enables evolution, please feel free to try again......

Sheesh
hingehead
 
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Reply Mon 8 Dec, 2014 10:04 pm
@DNA Thumbs drive,
You don't grasp the basic concept.

DNA doesn't control evolution. DNA contains the information required to replicate an organism. That the DNA gets the chance to replicate the organism is based on the organism's ability to mate, the environment, other organisms, chance, and the DNA contained in the genes of the other 'parent'. These things also affect how 'accurately' DNA replicates the original organism (it's virtually never a clone - even in asexual reproduction.

DNA wasn't even the first chemical to contain this coding mechanism - it evolved from RNA http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK6360/
DNA Thumbs drive
 
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Reply Tue 9 Dec, 2014 05:22 am
@hingehead,
1. DNA does control evolution.

2. Single celled organisms, that do not mate, are also controlled by DNA code. So mating is not required.

3. Ah, your own link, says that DNA was invented. So who or what did the inventing. This is precious.

4. Copy and paste, can be achieved by a 3 or so year old.

http://phys.org/news/2014-11-female-termites-clone-asexual-reproduction.html
hingehead
 
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Reply Tue 9 Dec, 2014 02:16 pm
@DNA Thumbs drive,
Quote:
1. DNA does control evolution
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No it does not. It is but one link in a chain of events that bring about evolution. In fact if DNA is damaged or changed by an external factor like say radiation, the replication of a copy will fail and the DNA itself in the copy will be different. Did the DNA deliberately arrange the radiation?

Quote:
2. Single celled organisms, that do not mate, are also controlled by DNA code. So mating is not required.

I never said mating was required, I specifically mentioned asexual reproduction.

Quote:
3. Ah, your own link, says that DNA was invented. So who or what did the inventing. This is precious.


Please copy and paste where it says DNA was invented, three year old.

Quote:
4. Copy and paste, can be achieved by a 3 or so year old.

As your contributions to this thread have proven.



If DNA controlled evolution asexual reproduction could never result in evolution, but it does. DNA replicates organisms. For evolution to occur in asexual reproduction DNA must be changed or damaged by an environmental factor. Otherwise we wouldn't exist because earliest reproduction was asexual. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asexual_reproduction. We evolved because the environment affected our DNA through mutation, mixing, and natural selection.
DNA Thumbs drive
 
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Reply Tue 9 Dec, 2014 03:52 pm
@hingehead,
Whoo hoo, Dude, DNA controls evolution, predominately by random, or forced mutation. Look it up, it is really not worth discussing... try reading something other than the comics. http://www.detectingdesign.com/dnamutationrates.html

This is the link that you posted where it says that DNA was invented http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK6360/

Copy and pasted-----> The transition from RNA to the DNA world was a major event in the history of life. The invention of DNA required the appearance of enzymatic activities for both synthesis of DNA precursors,......

So your own author says that DNA was invented, which of course requires.......yippy an inventor. Thanks.

Satisfied? Now can you tell us what the heck a DNA precursor is, other than imagination......

Sheesh
hingehead
 
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Reply Tue 9 Dec, 2014 04:49 pm
@DNA Thumbs drive,
Wow. You cite a .com site with the domain detectingdesign. That sounds fair and balanced.


You didn't read your own copy and paste

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The transition from RNA to the DNA world was a major event in the history of life.


RNA was the precursor to DNA.

'Invention' here is not used in the context you wish it to be.

Not satisfied at all - but carry on with your delusions 'hard drive' boy.
DNA Thumbs drive
 
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Reply Tue 9 Dec, 2014 04:53 pm
@hingehead,
I read it, it's an opinion, or are you attributing that it is fact, because it is on the internet......

I can prove by the internet, that there are aliens at area 51..... Doesn't make it real. http://www.techtimes.com/articles/19013/20141030/former-area-51-scientist-claims-aliens-ufos-exist-shows-pictures-as-proof-video.htm

Sheesh
hingehead
 
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Reply Tue 9 Dec, 2014 05:01 pm
@DNA Thumbs drive,
You used it as evidence you were right and now you're claiming it's incorrect?

Nice ambit claim - everything on the internet is wrong. That would include intelligent design. You're disappearing up your own cloacca.

Put your analyst on danger money.
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hingehead
 
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Reply Tue 9 Dec, 2014 05:04 pm
@DNA Thumbs drive,
01011001 01101111 01110101 00100000 01101000 01100001 01110110 01100101 00100000 01100001 00100000 01110110 01100101 01110010 01111001 00100000 01110011 01101100 01101111 01110000 01110000 01111001 00100000 01110111 01100001 01111001 00100000 01101111 01100110 00100000 01110100 01101000 01101001 01101110 01101011 01101001 01101110 01100111 00101110

Ooh, look, I've just managed to encode binary in A2K. A2K is proof there was a creator!

I'll see your sheesh and raise you two FMLs.
DNA Thumbs drive
 
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Reply Tue 9 Dec, 2014 05:15 pm
@hingehead,
This is more logical, than billions of genes, and a hard drive forming out of a warm pond........

Congrats.
hingehead
 
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Reply Tue 9 Dec, 2014 05:31 pm
@DNA Thumbs drive,
Oh, you poor boy.
 

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