Can we ever really know reality?

And if you thought you "knew" that, then it could only be based on...

Fresky is on record as saying you can't think without language. Now just how someone can acquire a language in the first place without the ability to think aint exactly clear, but, still.....

Prove it ! Lets hear you start by defining 'language' and 'thought'.

The history of philosophy post Kant's distinction of phenomena (what is experienced) from noumena (inaccessible 'things in themselves') has developed along a path in in which noumena have become mythical/irrelevant. The lay person may indeed have a naive view of 'reality' as being some sort of 'ultimate (non contextual) state of things in themselves'. So what ? The assumption that there is a 'God's Eye view of reality' seems to be a common psychological need, culminating for most in religion. If you were familiar with the literature I have cited you might understand these issues which have resulted in a nonrepresentationalist view of language.

In short, I am suggesting that puzzledperson might more aptly adopt the name unreadperson, since many of the 'puzzles' are have already been dealt with in depth.

Yeah, right, eh, Fresky? And if he read some of the voluminous literature which you DON'T cite, he would "understand" otherwise, eh?

Of course you can always take counsel from Layman with his 'get Fresky' hobby. Whether he has the ability to distinguish pragmatic views of the use of the word 'reality', from 'naive realism' is up to you !

Man you are a real charm with that cassette of yours, freaking broken record...go back to the hole were you come from you fake !
You should be ashamed of being a teacher...I petty your students...
You and your "social agreement" on Reality, self created from its own bootstraps are one sad episode of pseudo philosophy !

Like, the pseudoiest, eh?