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Does the sun spin around the world or does that world spin around the sun?

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Riley Mole
 
Reply Mon 10 Nov, 2014 10:06 pm
I've always wanted to know this and I know that it says the world goes around the sun, but I just wanted to know what you think.
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glitterbag
 
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Reply Mon 10 Nov, 2014 10:26 pm
@Riley Mole,
Well, I think it's been established that the earth rotates around the sun, but only the scientists and people who have managed to get to 5th grade understand the nuances. Well, of course a ton of people have made it thru grade 5, so I'm not sure how many billions more people understand it.
fresco
 
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Reply Tue 11 Nov, 2014 12:37 am
@Riley Mole,
Above 5th grade you may learn that in physical terms they both rotate about a common centre of mass situated within the Sun's perimeter.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Tue 11 Nov, 2014 01:04 am
@glitterbag,
glitterbag wrote:
Well, I think it's been established that the earth rotates around the sun
As the Earth revolves in its orbit around the Sun,
it does indeed rotate, giving us days n nights.


glitterbag wrote:
but only the scientists and people who have managed to get to 5th grade
understand the nuances. Well, of course a ton of people have made it thru grade 5
2OOO pounds of people?? I think its more.
If, for round numbers, we were to assume the questionable
hypothesis that the 5th grade began in America around 150 years ago,
then that 'd be about 13.33333333 pounds of people making it thru grade 5 per year.
What does an average student weigh??

Thay coud get thru the 5th grade faster, if thay used fonetic spelling.



glitterbag wrote:
so I'm not sure how many billions more people understand it.
Do u intend to ask them??
It will be a time consuming endeavor.
It will go faster, if u hire translators. Let us know how that turns out.


FOR THE RECORD:
I have gotten thru the 5th grade (weighing even more than 14 pounds),
tho I 've taken a lot of time off, being a big believer in VACATIONS.





David
Lordyaswas
 
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Reply Tue 11 Nov, 2014 01:34 am
@OmSigDAVID,
"tho I 've taken a lot of time off, being a big believer in VACATIONS."


Yes, probably when all the spelling lessons were taking place. You then devised what you thought was a clever way to cover up the resultant deficiency by being a vanguard for kiddy writing.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Tue 11 Nov, 2014 01:51 am
@Lordyaswas,
DAVID wrote:
"tho I 've taken a lot of time off, being a big believer in VACATIONS."

Lordyaswas wrote:
Yes, probably when all the spelling lessons were taking place.
I feel complicitly guilty for preserving the paradigm before my retirement.
Before the prevalence of computers with word processing programs,
I remember using red ink to correct my secretaries' spelling in their stenografy.
Paradigmatic spelling was ez enuf, but an abuse of the human mind.


Lordyaswas wrote:
You then devised what you thought was a clever way to cover up
the resultant deficiency by being a vanguard for kiddy writing.
IF I ever create a flag for myself,
then maybe I'll put logically spelling kiddies on it,
as thay repudiate the paradigm (paradime), while spinning around the Sun.
Lordyaswas
 
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Reply Tue 11 Nov, 2014 01:55 am
@OmSigDAVID,
See? You can come across as reasonably literate when you try.


Well done!
Setanta
 
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Reply Tue 11 Nov, 2014 02:02 am
This is dedicated to Fresco and his goof-ball notions of science.

OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Tue 11 Nov, 2014 02:03 am
@Lordyaswas,
Lordyaswas wrote:
See? You can come across as reasonably literate when you try.


Well done!
NO. I reject the compliment.
Doing it WELL woud have been fully logical, i.e., fully fonetic.

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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Tue 11 Nov, 2014 02:25 am
@Setanta,
Setanta wrote:
This is dedicated to Fresco and his goof-ball notions of science.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cGWTAe3M6U[/youtube]
Setanta, I 'm pleasantly surprized to see u post this song. Its oddly metaphysical of u.
I had deemed u to be more materialistic. Perhaps I misjudged u.





David
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Setanta
 
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Reply Tue 11 Nov, 2014 02:36 am
This one's for you, David . . .



You do know, i hope, that i don't give a rat's ass what you thought of me, or what you now think of me.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Tue 11 Nov, 2014 02:59 am
@Setanta,
Setanta wrote:
This one's for you, David . . .

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXlw-hd2t1Y[/youtube]
Thank u. I remember those days.
Thay seemed like an eternity; mildly boring.



Setanta wrote:
You do know, i hope, that i don't give a rat's ass what you thought of me, or what you now think of me.
Well, I know that u have consistently expressed that position qua everyone,
when the subject has arisen. I have no opinion in regard to whether it is true, or not.
That 's none of my business; I don t care.

I will re-iterate that A2K is better off with u, than without u.





David
Setanta
 
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Reply Tue 11 Nov, 2014 03:09 am
@OmSigDAVID,
"Qua everyone?" What a pathetic loon.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Tue 11 Nov, 2014 03:15 am
@Setanta,
Is that music to your taste, Setanta ?
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Tue 11 Nov, 2014 03:17 am
@Setanta,
Setanta wrote:
"Qua everyone?" What a pathetic loon.
If I challenged u to name an exception,
u 'd have no hope of success!
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FBM
 
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Reply Tue 11 Nov, 2014 03:38 am
Given the lack of an absolute frame of reference (think Einstein and GR), it's not wrong to say the sun revolves around the earth. If you want to choose this planet as your frame of reference, there's nothing in physics to stop you.
Setanta
 
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Reply Tue 11 Nov, 2014 03:59 am
Still trying to ick a fight, huh David.
Setanta
 
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Reply Tue 11 Nov, 2014 04:01 am
@FBM,
I can't agree with that. Choosing a frame of reference solely to support one's thesis, to validate a premise, is putting the cart before the horse. Such carts don't get anywhere very quickly.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Tue 11 Nov, 2014 04:07 am
@Setanta,
Setanta wrote:
Still trying to ick a fight, huh David.
No, no, just in a conversational mood.
R u getting too paranoid about fighting ?
U r safe.
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FBM
 
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Reply Tue 11 Nov, 2014 04:22 am
@Setanta,
Setanta wrote:

I can't agree with that. Choosing a frame of reference solely to support one's thesis, to validate a premise, is putting the cart before the horse. Such carts don't get anywhere very quickly.


Sure, but I'm just saying that the equations work just as well for any frame of reference. I'm just splitting hairs, really.
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